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5 years ago ::
Oct 06, 2008 - 8:01PM
#1121
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Twenty lands isn't going to cut it, even with Birds, Llanowar, and Elvish Harbinger. With all that mana acceleration I'd still cut some cards to go to 22 or even 23. In the name of consistency I'd probably cut the Packmasters for Colossi and maybe drop one Warhammer for another Command or Perfect.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 06, 2008 - 8:13PM
#1122
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4 Llanowar Elves
4 Vanquisher
4 Troll Ascetic
3 Wayfinder
4 Colossus
4 Thoughtseize
4 Nameless/Eyeblight's/Whatever Removal spell
3 Bitterblossom
3 Profane Command
2 Garruk
2 Warhammer
23 Land
SB:
4 Primal Command
1 Warhammer
2 Razormane Masticore
(My current anti-red package)
3 Mind Shatter (Toast)
3 Infest (Kithkin)
2 Cloudthresher (Faeries)
Thoughts?
Current decks:
Type II: B/R Vampires
Extended:
Modern: U/G Scapeshift
1.5: Ichorid, Elf Combo
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5 years ago ::
Oct 06, 2008 - 9:59PM
#1123
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Date Joined:
Jun 17, 2008
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I've been trying Bramblewood Paragon in Goyf's place. It's not as good of a topdeck late game, but if you get it our early, every other creature is a warrior and therefore gets pumped. Here's my current list:
Creatures (22):
4x Llanowar Elves
4x Bramblewood Paragon
4x Wren's Run Vanquisher
4x Imperious Perfect
3x Civic Wayfinder
3x Chameleon Colossus
Spells (15):
4x Thoughtseize
4x Nameless Inversion
4x Profane Command
2x Garruk Wildspeaker
1x Unmake
Lands (23):
4x Treetop Village
3x Mutavault
4x Gilt-Leaf Palace
4x Lllanowar Elves
2x Twilight Mire
4x Forest
2x Swamp
As someone mentioned earlier, I've also thought about splashing white for Doran and Oblivion Ring. Doran is by far better than Paragon as a late game topdeck. I'll test both out, I guess.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 07, 2008 - 3:40PM
#1124
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Feels like we have a lot of decklists but not a lot of critiquers. Anomander- Lower the Profane Command count. Four is too many, one isn't enough, and I own two so I only use two, but three is probably the optimal number. What does the random one of Unmake do for you? I'd rather cut it for another Garruk. Other than that you look pretty solid, although I have a different preference in the two drop slot. LightningHelixed- Not sure what to say, but I'm pretty sure going up to 4 on the Bitterblossom count is the right decision. Your choice of Troll Ascetic  over Imperious Perfect  is rather interesting, and certainly have a solid decklist. In the sideboard I'd cut Primal Command down to two or three. Have you considered playing Kitchen Finks out of the sideboard? Llanowar into Kitchen Finks generally kicks Red in the crotch hard.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 07, 2008 - 3:50PM
#1125
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Date Joined:
Jun 17, 2008
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I've run four Profane's for as long as I've had them and I have never been sad to have them in my hand. They simply turn the game around. If you go look at nearly all of the top elves decks at various nationals, you will see four Profane's in just about every list. They're that good and a major asset to this deck.
The one of Unmake was simply a filler. I think three Garruks is too much and I couldn't think of anything else to throw in so I put in a random removal spell. That spot used to be filled by a singleton Boreal Druid as a fifth mana accelerator, but I'm not sure what to fill it with now that it rotated out. Obviously it's personal preference and I just like the extra chances of hitting a removal spell at the moment.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 07, 2008 - 6:35PM
#1126
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I used to run three profane commands, because I owned three. Then I got a fourth and I haven't looked back. Two in your starting hand may not seem like a great opening, but turn 4 to kill something and bring back a vanquisher is a strong play. Elvish visionary  has also been a great addition for me. (For a traditional elf list I would put it in mana goyf's slot and drop wayfinders for finks or troll.) I'm still debating weather Fleshbag marauder  s or maws deserve MD space. While the marauder is obviously good against shroud ad pro-black, it's surprise bonus is against pacifism effects. It's also cheaper to reanimate with profane command. My decklist, for reference
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Lands (23)
4 llanowar wastes
4 gilt-leaf palace
4 Treetop village
1 Mutavault
4 Forest
6 Swamp
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Creatures (26)
2 Chameleon colossus
2 Fleshbag marauder
3 Murderous redcap
3 elvish visionary 
4 kitchen finks
4 twinblade slasher 
4 llanowar elves
4 wren's run vanquisher
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Other Spells (11)
3 Garruk
4 Nameless inversion
4 Prophane command
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SB (15)
3 Naturalize
3 shriekmaw
3 eyeblight's ending
1 Fleshbag marauder
2 Cloudthresher
2 faerie macabre
1 puppeteer clique 
Yes, this is more a GB weenie deck than a pure elf deck, but the pre-shards version was working better for me than any net list. Now it's got some preliminary shards updates, but I've yet to start meta tweeks.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 07, 2008 - 7:03PM
#1127
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I really need to trade for more Profane Command  . I only own two, hence the two in my deck. I apologize for giving bad advice; I only recently started playing Elves, so you guys should slap me back on track. I'm running two Masked Admirers  instead of Elvish Visionary  because they give a lot of recursion and power post-wipe and absorb removal/chump block fairly well. It also unties my two slot for either Bitterblossom  or Wolf-Skull Shaman  , but I'm really liking the Shaman. A ton of cards trigger off the top for him, and the 2/2 Wolf tokens really force the opponent to think fast or board wipe.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 07, 2008 - 10:14PM
#1128
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Date Joined:
Sep 16, 2008
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I am looking for changes to my current decklist to meet the current meta. Here is the list with changes next to cards Elves
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I am also looking for potential sideboard cards beside Mind Shatter, even though the meta has not been established quite yet. Thanks.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 08, 2008 - 12:22PM
#1129
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Cloudthresher  looks like a staple SB card, and right now I'm SB'ing Fractured Gust  because I hear a lot of people are playing Esper/Artifacts in my metagame.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 08, 2008 - 2:37PM
#1130
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Date Joined:
Sep 16, 2008
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Thanks for the suggestions. I will try those and some other stuff this friday at my shop.
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