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4 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2009 - 2:38PM #21
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Brainstorming a Decklist


How do I Just Think of Ideas?

Decks can be created from seeing a specific card and deciding to build around it, wanting to make a wacky combo work, or just creating the best deck you can with the available cards. There are many other reasons to design a certain deck but all require some kind of purpose to do. Even if the purpose is to throw random cards together for a deck.

What Should I Keep In Mind?

Purpose
Deciding what you want your deck to do is the most important part of creating a successful deck. Making a deck that has 45 ways to win but each way works only 1% of the time is far worse than a focused deck that works 97% of the time.

Budget
Everyone has a specific amount of money at their disposal. Some decks cost more than others and you want to keep in mind what you can afford and how much you want to spend


Who am I Playing Against?

There are different 'powerlevels' or tiers of magic decks. Some are meant to just to have elaborate effects, but not incredibly dedicated to destroying the opponent. On the other extreme, some decks can win on turn 1. Depending on your playgroup, a certain level of deck may be appropriate. In a truly casual setting, you don't want to blow your opponents out of the water every game. That will lead to frustration and you not having anyone to play. Conversely, you don't want to be blown out every game. It (usually) isn't very fun to have no chance to do anything.

While you want to stay in a reasonably close zone to other players, you always don't want to sacrifice your deck for it. It is sometimes frustrating to have to handicap yourself because other players can't afford, or don't want to create a 'stronger' deck. Think of this as a way to stretch your creative muscles and truly test your abilities. Create a deck that uses only commons, or one that uses a fun combo. Don't take it as an insult or complaint, but a way to challenge yourself.
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 03, 2009 - 11:08AM #22
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Creating your Deck


How do I Know Which Cards to Put In?

First it is key to know, or have a good idea what you want to do. Do you want to beatdown with tokens? Make a deck around a wacky combo you discovered? Perhaps you'd prefer to win with a giant 9/9 beast.

Either way, you're going to have to figure out what you want your deck to do. Take this idea and find cards that fit into this theme or strategy. Some cards will work more obviously than others.

What if I Don't Know Many Cards?

The longer you play Magic, the easier this becomes. When players first start out, they of course have a more limited knowledge of card names, which cards work together well, etc. This becomes easier as you play more and learn more about the game.

Gatherer
There are multiple ways to find cards that work. The first way is to use Gatherer, provided by this very website. It is a search engine dedicated to the entire Magic cardlist database. You can search for cards based on name, type, what they do, even the artist or flavor text.



Asking for Help
Another way is posting on various websites asking for help and suggestions. There are many websites that do this across the internet. Some are dedicated to specific formats or rules, and some are more general. This website has a strong community with good advice across all the formats.

Looking Through your Cards
Going through your collection of cards is also a way to decide which cards to use. This is effective in the sense that it already tells you what you do or do not have, as well as a good indicator if you're going to be able to even make the deck. However it is difficult because you have to sort through all your cards

What if I Can't Think of 60 Cards?

Probably the best way to go about this is to take what you have, test it a few times, and decide what else you need. Playing the deck gives you a better idea of what cards you need or would work well with the core of the deck.
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 03, 2009 - 5:13PM #23
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Tweaking and Tuning your Deck


Goldfishing or Solitaire

When players refer to goldfishing or solitaire they mean playing the deck alone against no opposition. This doesn't let you see how it plays in a real game situation, but it allows you to see what kind of draws or consistency you have within the deck. It is a way to do preliminary tests without any help and see the basics of how it is working.

Statistics

It is impossible to know exactly how a deck will play without actually playing it. This does not mean you can't have a pretty good estimation, though. By looking at a deck's curve, mana requirements, manabase, win condition, and other variables, you can have a fairly good idea of how it'll play. Going through endless stats and compiling them for yourself is rarely fun and is often extremely tedious. Luckily there are programs that help with some of the important statistics.

Magic Workstation is one such program that is used to build decks from any combination of cards in Magic. Another is a deckprogram under Magic Deck Statistics at MTG-Forum.de Both have the ability to check many useful stats such as manacurve, color ratios, spell ratios, probability of drawing, hand samplerhas a built in deck analysis that tells you the curve, mana requirements, and other such information.



Playtesting

Playtesting is a key part of perfecting a deck. No matter what you see on paper, you can never be absolutely certain how it'll do in actuality. Playtesting is exactly what it sounds like: testing the deck by playing it. If you have a known meta, or know what types of decks you are going to be playing the most, you can playtest against those decks. This will allow you to refine your deck and see what works best in certain situations.
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 09, 2009 - 5:53PM #24
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Happy late 4th of July present Casual Playgoers!
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2009 - 9:29PM #25
Lim_Dul-s_Apprentice
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Didn't want to post anything till it was confirmed that you were done updating. The entirety of the Casual Play forum owes you a huge thanks for this monstrous guide.

In a word:

Props
My trade thread http://community.wizards.com/marketplace/go/thread/view/94957/22369033?sdb=1&post_num=1#389455421
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2010 - 11:20PM #26
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I have noticed that [noparse] and [/noparse] doesn't work. you use [*[*b][/b]c] instead, it will look like this > [c]hill giant[/c]^^
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 21, 2011 - 12:36PM #27
TheGreatJman
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Cool thread!  I'm definitely a Timmy/Spike.  I want to win, but love doing it with big creatures or a splashy effect.  I hate the cheap decks/direct damage discard approach.  Nothing pleases me more than stomping someone with a big nasty green monster! 

Aug 1, 2012 -- 10:26AM, Terti wrote:

Thread is so legit it's unbelievable, lol. Though I'm interested in knowing what gain there is to fish here. No, foreign prince, I will not invest in your grand profitable banking corporation.

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2 years ago  ::  Jul 19, 2011 - 6:30AM #28
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Wow great info! I'm going.to pass this on to some people I'm trying to lure into playing!
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 15, 2011 - 2:47AM #29
Nicodemus1128
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I need some serious help. I've been playing for a week or two against two of my nephews that have been playing for years. They trash me every time I sit at the table. I just want to know if a blue and red deck is worth playing. One of my nephews said that i should play a counter/burn and after looking it up i wanted to know if it would work or if he just wants to trash me again.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 15, 2011 - 5:05PM #30
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Sep 15, 2011 -- 2:47AM, Nicodemus1128 wrote:

I need some serious help. I've been playing for a week or two against two of my nephews that have been playing for years. They trash me every time I sit at the table. I just want to know if a blue and red deck is worth playing. One of my nephews said that i should play a counter/burn and after looking it up i wanted to know if it would work or if he just wants to trash me again.



Do this:
make a new thread.
Copy - paste.
Then you are likely to get good advice. this is not the thread for it.

Good luck 

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[c]cardname[/c]-> [c]Vampire Nighthawk[/c] -> Vampire Nighthawk


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