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6 years ago  ::  May 11, 2007 - 12:15PM #1
TimeFlip
Date Joined: Dec 11, 2002
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TURBOFOG POST-LORWYN


What is TurboFog? Show

Turbofog is a combo-control mill deck based on the card Fog , which would repeatedly be recurred to stop opponents from doing combat damage. The "turbo" of the deck refers to the symmetrical draw cards, which would both mill your opponent by making them draw and help you draw into more "fog". The fog effects and the massive draw achieved would force your opponent to overextend, setting up for a timely Wrath of God or Damnation . Other prison elements, like masks( Imperial Mask ) and lifegain( Martyr of Sands and Beacon of Immortality ) help further establish position.



Why should I play TurboFog? Show

You shouldn't. You thought people were mad about Martyr of Sands decks gaining life into the 100s. How about stopping every attack they do? You ever see a bunch of angry nerd gangs? It's not cool. They'll attack you with their duct tape hammers and cast their magic missiles at you. If you're lucky, you'll get a 16-20 and be able to dodge their attacks.

"ATTACK ME! I DARE YOU! LOLZ!!!!!"
:p

Jokes aside, TurboFog is an awesome metagame deck you can take against a heavy aggro metagame. It still has a chance against counter-based control, but it'll take more skill. For the most part, once the engine gets going, aggro becomes autopilotable. It might be a boring deck to play, but the entertainment comes from the dramatic magic players reacting to the deck.


How do I build a TurboFog deck? Show

The basic idea is to have about 10-12 fogs, with 8 turbos, and some board
clearers.


Card Recommendations: The Turbo Show




Card Recommendations: The Fog Show


  • Darkness - Your basic black Fog .

  • Holy Day - Your basic white Fog .

  • Dawn Charm - Fogs as well as prevents spells that targets you. Good for targeted discard like Nightmare Void or Persecute .

  • Sudden Spoiling - Not a fog in the traditional sense since creatures with +1/+1 counters will still do damage, but it's got split second which will save you a few times.

  • Angel's Grace - Definitely a versatile card. Cast it to keep yourself from losing by decking yourself or taking fatal damage. However, unlike traditional Fog this will put you at 1, so it's a big risk. You could also lose via life loss.

  • Chameleon Blur - It's good in that it prevents damage from creatures to players, however, the only advantage it has over Ethereal Haze is that it still lets damage pass to creatures. It's really expensive and you don't want be getting it while you're setting up. I'd put in at most 2.

  • Intervention Pact - Intervention Pact is good for bluffing out spells early. Just note that it ties up your mana next upkeep.

  • Luminesce This fog only works against red/black, but it stops both combat,other creature damage( Bogardan Hellkite for example), and red/black burn. Definitely a SB if you can afford it and you run into a lot of red/black.



Awesome Lorwyn Cards! Show


  • Primal Command - I've been playing this as a two-of, and it's versatility is awesome. I run Purity as a one-of to tutor out. It's also nice to gain 7 life and then fetch out a Martyr of Sands . The least likely to be used option is the "return target noncreature permanent to the top of the player's
    library", but it can be good to nullify an opposing planeswalker.

  • Oblivion Ring - Good MD enchantment/artifact hoser, as well as being an answer to Planeswalkers. Also can be used to nullify creatures in a pinch.

  • Pollen Lullaby - Good fog effect for the clash and scry 1.

  • Hoofprints of the Stag - Some people like it, some people don't. Logically it fits since you're drawing so many cards, but by then you should be in the position to win. Also, to get it out early where it'd be most effective, you'd have to put 4.

  • Eyes of the Wisent - I used to think this might be good, but it gets bounced pretty easily. Still, it's
    worth a try.



Top Problem Cards Show




DeckTech Show

Chronomantic Escape / Chronosavant - This is a prison maneuver vs. pure aggro. You'll want to skip turns while under the protection of Chronomantic Escape so that they draw cards while they cannot attack you. Note that this does not protect you against burn, so make sure you have a life buffer or Ivory Mask out. It's also a little risky since decks could just bring in Riftsweeper or Pull from Eternity or Venser's Diffusion or Venser, Shaper Savant himself.


Matchup Info - Post Lorwyn Show

*To be announced with release of archetypes*


Sample Decklists Post-Lorwyn Show

"TurboSnog WG"

Lands
3 x Mouth of Ronom Mouth of Ronom &type=card">

9 x +[Snow]+[Covered]+[Plains]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Snow-Covered Plains Snow-Covered Plains &type=card">
7 x +[Snow]+[Covered]+[Forest]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Snow-Covered Forest Snow-Covered Forest &type=card">
4 x +[Vivid]+[Meadow]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Vivid Meadow Vivid Meadow &type=card">

Creatures
1 x Purity Purity &type=card">
4 x Martyr of Sands Martyr of Sands &type=card">

Spells
4 x Howling Mine Howling Mine &type=card">
3 x Oblivion Ring Oblivion Ring &type=card">
4 x Pollen Lullaby Pollen Lullaby &type=card">
3 x Wrath of God Wrath of God &type=card">
4 x Holy Day Holy Day &type=card">
4 x Dawn Charm Dawn Charm &type=card">
2 x Beacon of Immortality Beacon of Immortality &type=card">
4 x Rites of Flourishing Rites of Flourishing &type=card">
2 x +[Primal]+[Command]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Primal Command Primal Command &type=card">
2 x +[Porphyry]+[Nodes]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Porphyry Nodes Porphyry Nodes &type=card">

// Sideboard
SB: 1 x Oblivion Ring Oblivion Ring &type=card">
SB: 1 x +[Porphyry]+[Nodes]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Porphyry Nodes Porphyry Nodes &type=card">
SB: 3 x +[Krosan]+[Grip]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Krosan Grip Krosan Grip &type=card">
SB: 4 x +[Dodecapod]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Dodecapod Dodecapod &type=card">
SB: 2 x +[Gaea]+[s]+[Blessing]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Gaea's Blessing Gaea's Blessing &type=card">
SB: 4 x +[Jester]+[s]+[Scepter]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Jester's Scepter Jester's Scepter &type=card">


"BlueHaze's build"

Lands
1 x +[Caves]+[of]+[Koilos]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Caves of Koilos Caves of Koilos &type=card">
3 x +[Vivid]+[Meadow]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Vivid Meadow Vivid Meadow &type=card">
4 x +[Arctic]+[Flats]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Arctic Flats Arctic Flats &type=card">
3 x Mouth of Ronom Mouth of Ronom &type=card">
2 x +[Brushland]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Brushland Brushland &type=card">
2 x +[Vivid]+[Grove]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Vivid Grove Vivid Grove &type=card">
1 x +[Snow]+[Covered]+[Forest]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Snow-Covered Forest Snow-Covered Forest &type=card">
7 x +[Snow]+[Covered]+[Plains]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Snow-Covered Plains Snow-Covered Plains &type=card">

Creatures
4 x Martyr of Sands Martyr of Sands &type=card">

Spells
3 x Oblivion Ring Oblivion Ring &type=card">
2 x Chronomantic Escape Chronomantic Escape &type=card">
1 x +[Mobilization]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Mobilization Mobilization &type=card">
1 x Extirpate Extirpate &type=card">
2 x Imperial Mask Imperial Mask &type=card">
4 x Dawn Charm Dawn Charm &type=card">
4 x Rites of Flourishing Rites of Flourishing &type=card">
4 x Howling Mine Howling Mine &type=card">
4 x Pollen Lullaby Pollen Lullaby &type=card">
4 x Holy Day Holy Day &type=card">
1 x +[Primal]+[Command]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Primal Command Primal Command &type=card">
1 x +[Sunscour]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Sunscour Sunscour &type=card">
2 x Wrath of God Wrath of God &type=card">

Sideboard
3 x Extirpate Extirpate &type=card">
3 x +[Krosan]+[Grip]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Krosan Grip Krosan Grip &type=card">
4 x Eyes of the Wisent Eyes of the Wisent &type=card">
4 x +[Quagnoth]+[card]" class="linkedCardName" target="_blank">[card]Quagnoth Quagnoth &type=card">
1 x Feldon's Cane Feldon's Cane &type=card">



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6 years ago  ::  May 11, 2007 - 12:52PM #2
Skye23412
Date Joined: May 18, 2003
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needs black for darkness !

oo and children of korlis
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6 years ago  ::  May 11, 2007 - 12:57PM #3
Simbacca
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this is funny, I like it
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6 years ago  ::  May 11, 2007 - 1:17PM #4
VGN
Date Joined: Aug 21, 2005
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Needs moar Millstone and/or Whetwheel
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6 years ago  ::  May 11, 2007 - 1:32PM #5
GrandHero
Date Joined: Feb 9, 2007
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it's times like these that I wish we had Spore Frog (then the title could be called TurboFrog!)

Not sure if these would help but:
Blazing Archon - bit expensive though =/
Magus of the Moat - Would probably get burned anyways.
Oh well, can't say I didn't try =D

(was gunna add Chronomantic Escape but you apparantly already have it lol)

So have you tested this deck out? I'm interested to see how it does.
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6 years ago  ::  May 11, 2007 - 1:56PM #6
theXfactor
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looks pretty annoying, so i might have to test it out.

The only thing that makes me wary of the deck is that there isn't really an actual "win-con", but i will still probably try it out. Otherwise, i love the idea.
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6 years ago  ::  May 11, 2007 - 2:02PM #7
GrandHero
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Hmm, against an Ignite Memories deck it would probably lose. Wait, nvmd, as long as you have an Ivory Mask out your good.
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6 years ago  ::  May 11, 2007 - 2:05PM #8
theXfactor
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GrandHero wrote:

Hmm, against an Ignite Memories deck it would probably lose. Wait, nvmd, as long as you have an Ivory Mask out your good.


Not unless that you get caught with a few copies Chronomantic Escape, Wrath of God, or Ivory Mask in your hand.

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6 years ago  ::  May 11, 2007 - 2:10PM #9
GrandHero
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theXfactor wrote:

Not unless that you get caught with a few copies Chronomantic Escape, Wrath of God, or Ivory Mask in your hand.


? Did you ever read Ivory Mask ?

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6 years ago  ::  May 11, 2007 - 2:39PM #10
theXfactor
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GrandHero wrote:

? Did you ever read Ivory Mask ?


Yes, however, Ivory Mask can't do much while its in your hand.

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