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5 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2008 - 5:30PM #1151
pandafarmer
Date Joined: May 22, 2004
Posts: 567
You guys should check out the B/W TurboSMOG decks running around. Not only do they abuse the Spiteful Visions/Mine combo, but can also run Batwing Brume and Sleeper Agent . It's pretty hillarious watching people lose to her. A sample deck:

TurboSmog by BFiddy over at MTG Salvation
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=121321

Turbo (7)
4 Howling Mine
3 Spiteful Visions

Fog (12)
4 Batwing Brume
4 Pollen Lullaby
4 Holy Day

Big Stuff (5)
2 Purity
3 Profane Command

Removal (7)
3 Hallowed Burial
4 Oblivion Ring

Control (6)
4 Runed Halo
2 Story Circle

Land (23)
4 Caves of Koilos
4 Fetid Heath
2 Forbidding Watchtower
8 Plains
5 Swamp
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2008 - 7:24PM #1152
Rat_Bastardsen
Date Joined: Sep 15, 2007
Posts: 2,739

pandafarmer wrote:

You guys should check out the B/W TurboSMOG decks running around. Not only do they abuse the Spiteful Visions/Mine combo, but can also run Batwing Brume and Sleeper Agent .


decks like that have been posted in this thread for ages.

I can't figure out how people keep Purity alive when there are 2 creatures in the deck. Surely your opponent runs at least 4 removal? Even 2 Nameless Inversions will take out Purity, and they should have plenty of cards by the time P hits the board.

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* Post-ban HawkBlade!
* Jace, the Mind Sculptor is good!
* End-of-Lorwyn TurboFog!

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 06, 2008 - 12:16PM #1153
delfam
Date Joined: Sep 4, 2008
Posts: 132
purity really doesnt work, it just can't stay out on the field. I think the best way to win is spiteful visions and howling mine.
Im going to playtest Jace to see how it works with mine and visions, ill post results later.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 06, 2008 - 3:13PM #1154
Rat_Bastardsen
Date Joined: Sep 15, 2007
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delfam wrote:

purity really doesnt work, it just can't stay out on the field. I think the best way to win is spiteful visions and howling mine.
Im going to playtest Jace to see how it works with mine and visions, ill post results later.


I like Jace. TurboFog decks used to all run 10-12 Turbo. Jace is good turbo, other than the Legendary rule, and he's an additional win condition as well.

I'm liking the 16 fog, no life-gain, Spiteful Visions version of this deck. I need more live testing, but it looks like I can survive Demigod Red by playing Underworld Dreams, timing any Spiteful Visions carefully, and using Runed Halo naming their biggest burn spell (usually Flame Javelin). That's before siding in Luminesce and Primal Command, so it shouldn't be a tough match. Burn.dec could be a problem, but that's not a popular deck these days.

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Vindicated!
* HawkBlade is aggro/control!
* Post-ban HawkBlade!
* Jace, the Mind Sculptor is good!
* End-of-Lorwyn TurboFog!

‘Everything that needs to be said has already been said. But since no one was listening, everything must be said again.’ – André Gide

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 06, 2008 - 5:06PM #1155
delfam
Date Joined: Sep 4, 2008
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if you want help testing I can test over MWS, just pm me
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 06, 2008 - 6:24PM #1156
screent
Date Joined: Feb 6, 2008
Posts: 440
I really like u/w turbofog as Jace is the best turbo in the format, and Cryptic Command is the best fog. I'm currently running a list that abuses Jace and Rings of Brighthearth and it is working surprisingly well, and has slightly better matchups against control and my b/w one.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 06, 2008 - 7:22PM #1157
Vladamir
Date Joined: Nov 30, 2006
Posts: 1,112

screent wrote:

I really like u/w turbofog as Jace is the best turbo in the format, and Cryptic Command is the best fog. I'm currently running a list that abuses Jace and Rings of Brighthearth and it is working surprisingly well, and has slightly better matchups against control and my b/w one.


sounds like my list with the Jace and Rings...arent they fun together =D

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2008 - 10:18AM #1158
Rat_Bastardsen
Date Joined: Sep 15, 2007
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A morning of play on mwsplay seems to confirm that that particular meta is very agro. So far only one person quit game 1 and called me a noob, but the rest quit after game 1 (despite joining a "T2 2/3 SB" game). :D
Attitude reflects leadership.

Vindicated!
* HawkBlade is aggro/control!
* Post-ban HawkBlade!
* Jace, the Mind Sculptor is good!
* End-of-Lorwyn TurboFog!

‘Everything that needs to be said has already been said. But since no one was listening, everything must be said again.’ – André Gide

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2008 - 10:22AM #1159
MTG-Fan
Date Joined: May 4, 2008
Posts: 2,694

Rat_Bastardsen wrote:

A morning of play on mwsplay seems to confirm that that particular meta is very agro. So far only one person quit game 1 and called me a noob, but the rest quit after game 1 (despite joining a "T2 2/3 SB" game). :D


Yeah, alot of noobs on MWS public servers play all-out aggro (Kithkin, Elves) and think they can get away with their shenanigans against everything.

TurboSmog is there to bend them over the knee and give them a good spanking for being so insolent.

also, lol @ "a morning of play on mws". don't you love not having anything better to do than blowing a good morning beating MWS scrubs? :D (i do the same thing with my mornings)

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2008 - 11:27AM #1160
Rat_Bastardsen
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MTG-Fan wrote:

Yeah, alot of noobs on MWS public servers play all-out aggro (Kithkin, Elves) and think they can get away with their shenanigans against everything.

TurboSmog is there to bend them over the knee and give them a good spanking for being so insolent.

also, lol @ "a morning of play on mws". don't you love not having anything better to do than blowing a good morning beating MWS scrubs? :D (i do the same thing with my mornings)


I originally revisited mwsplay because it is easier to find players there for testing. It doesn't prepare me for more serious metas though, because I really need testing against control decks. But I quickly saw a way to make the best of a less-than-ideal situation - I built an up-to-date TurboSmog deck to have fun playing my favorite deck at the expense of the agro players!

And yes, I'm so fond of setting my own hours, I hope I never have to go back to 9-5 (ok, 10-6).

Attitude reflects leadership.

Vindicated!
* HawkBlade is aggro/control!
* Post-ban HawkBlade!
* Jace, the Mind Sculptor is good!
* End-of-Lorwyn TurboFog!

‘Everything that needs to be said has already been said. But since no one was listening, everything must be said again.’ – André Gide

'...but if you're repeating yourself in an online forum, chances are you're just feeding a troll.' - Rat Bastardsen
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