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razorborne wrote:

so of all the black first strike cards in extended, half are in Planar Chaos. I think this should say something.

Oh it does say something.  J.B Fletcher is a serial killer!  Ever think it was a little coincidental that a murder mystery writer just happens to be there when some one is murdered? ....and it happened enough that they got 6 or 7 seasons out of “Murder She Wrote.”  How often have you coincidently been involved or around a subject you were writing about before that incident?

On an unrelated subject (Razor how could you go so far off subject, I mean J.B. Fletcher, seriously), First strike is not very common in black.  This card is almost a homage to Voracious Cobra , which I believe is the only creature in the history of magic that naturally combines these two abilities.

Gardevior wrote:

Chaos Theory.
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that's what they say. they're not gonna say "yeah, **** the color pie". but in terms of what mechanics belong in what colors, you really can't consider planar chaos unless you think harrow is blue.

Libe wrote:

I disagree. Just as the blanket statement "All cards in Planar Chaos are on-color" is false, so is its opposite. Some cards are reasonable within the modern color pie, and some aren't.

indeed. so they have no bearing, because their existence in Planar Chaos gives no indication as to whether they are in color. I can't point to jodah's avenger to prove that double strike is blue. but I also can't point to aven riftwatcher being in planar chaos as an indication that life gain isn't really white.

my point is that, due to the random nature of whether cards in PC are mechanically in-color, they really can't be referenced unless they appeared outside it, like prodigal pyromancer .

razorborne wrote:

enough of Planar Chaos is blatantly violating the color pie or at least well outside the norms that you really can't take it as a valid case.

for the record, outside of TS block, there are three mono-black card that have, gain, or grant first strike. (not counting emberstrike duo and fists of the demigod . I think we can agree those don't count.) they are a very old fan favorite , an homage to another iconic old card , and whatever the hell yawgmoth demon is . for comparison, there are 5 in TS block, including four in planar chaos and one as a reference to Nekrataal.

so of all the black first strike cards in extended, half are in Planar Chaos. I think this should say something.

[FONT="Book Antiqua"]In extended, yes there are only 3 that have/has/grant first strike. However, there are plenty more than 3 monoblack cards with first strike ever made. They ranged from cards made in Antiquities ( Stone-Throwing Devils ) to Alliances ( Lim-Dul's High Guard ) to Tempest( Kezzerdrix ) to older core sets (Black Knight).[/FONT]

Cryos, Icy Manipulator wrote:

[FONT="Book Antiqua"]In extended, yes there are only 3 that have/has/grant first strike. However, there are plenty more than 3 monoblack cards with first strike ever made. They ranged from cards made in Antiquities ( Stone-Throwing Devils ) to Alliances ( Lim-Dul's High Guard ) to Tempest( Kezzerdrix ) to older core sets (Black Knight).[/FONT]

and there are 14 blue creatures that tap to deal 1 damage to a creature or player. that doesn't make it in color.