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5 years ago  ::  Mar 22, 2008 - 10:59AM #551
Time_Stopped
Date Joined: Jun 25, 2005
Posts: 721
To be honest Primal Command helps out by getting rid of a man land for a turn, It searches for a finisher, it buys time with life. and helps against lark and other graveyard focused decks.

It seriously would have saved me so many games last night. It is so versatile that it deserves (at least some testing) in Maindeck. Same with the Nath of the Gilt Leaf. He may not stay in the deck.




sidenote: Shriekmaw is really bad in my meta since we have 3 b/g rock decks, 2 b/g elves, 3-4 B rogues, 2 b/u fairies. I think we have 1-2 non black decks.
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 22, 2008 - 12:07PM #552
magic-baseball09
Date Joined: Feb 27, 2008
Posts: 33
i went 2 and 1 in fnm last night playing a toolbox control doran deck, i made a few changes afterwards and this is what it looks like

24 land

4 Doran the siege Tower
4 Birds of Paradise
3 Civic Wayfinder
3 Ohran Viper
1 Chameleon Colossus
1 Shriekmaw


3 Liliana Vess
2 Damnation
2 Garruk Wildspeaker
2 Oblivion Ring
2 Eyeblights Ending
2 Nameless Inversion
2 Profane Command
1 Primal Command
3 Thought seize
1 Loxodon Warhammer
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 22, 2008 - 1:25PM #553
Dakken21
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Date Joined: Sep 5, 2004
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Here's my BG Rock list that i've been perfecting for a while now...it runs pretty smoothly.


Land: 23

3x Treetop Village
4x Mutavault
4x Llanowar Wastes
4x Gilt-Leaf Palace
2x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3x Forest
3x Swamp

Creatures: 19

3x Chameleon Colossus
4x Birds of Paradise
2x Llanowar Elves
2x Shriekmaw
4x Troll Ascetic
4x Tarmogoyf

Other Spells: 18

2x Garruk Wildspeaker
1x Eyeblight's Ending
3x Nameless Inversion
2x Damnation
2x Bitterblossom
2x Loxodon Warhammer
3x Thoughtseize
2x Profane Command
1x Liliana Vess

Sideboard:

3x Krosan Grip
4x Eyes of the Wisent
2x Damnation
1x Thoughtseize
2x Cloudthresher
3x Deathmark

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 26, 2008 - 11:52PM #554
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Date Joined: Jun 25, 2005
Posts: 721
I edited my post above(#549) I removed Nath of the Gilt Leaf and Primal Command for 4x Augur of Skulls. I forgot how much I liked these guys. I remember why I took out the Nath in the first place. I do wish I could have kept Primal Command but I had to cut something. I also would like to fit an extra land in here but may have to run a 61 card deck to do so.
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 29, 2008 - 1:59PM #555
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Here is my deck. I played a bad version of rock at states and after that didnt have a shop to play at for a while. So Im not working on making this deck competative again. Take a look and please give criticism. Also no I dont have tarmogoyfs. I could get them if I wanted to, but I still dont really like em in rock.

60 cards

Land: x21

Mouth of Ronom x2
Urborg, Tomb of yawgmoth x1
Snow-covered swamp x7
Treetop Village x2
Snow-Covered Forest x6
Llanowar Wastes x3

Creatures: x16

Chameleon Colossus x1
Wall of Roots x4
Masked Admirers x3
Troll Ascetic x4
Shriekmaw x4

Sorcerys: x11

Call of the herd x3
Sylvan Scrying x3
Damnation x3
Profane Command x2

Instant x6

Tendrils of corruption x3
Sudden Death x3

Planeswalker: x3

Garruk Wildspeaker x2
Liliana Vess x1

Artifacts x3

Loxodon Warhammer x3

SIDEBOARD X15

Tendrils of corruptions x 1
Call of the herd x1
Deathmark x3
Krosan Grip x3
Tombstalker x2
Quagnoth x2
Extripate x3

Just let me know. I know their are problems, but this deck in its original form before alot of changes to make this, Was very solid for states. Although to this day I still hate turbo-fog :D
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 29, 2008 - 7:35PM #556
Spyritwind
Date Joined: Mar 23, 2001
Posts: 212
It would be difficult to argue for a single best build card for card, but looking at decks posted for the past few pages should give you some things to work off of.

Even so I'll post a few thoughts.

Land: x21 (Not enough land by the normal standards)
Mouth of Ronom x2
Urborg, Tomb of yawgmoth x1 (Need 3 if running tendrils)
Snow-covered swamp x7
Treetop Village x2 (You want at least 3 of these)
Snow-Covered Forest x6
Llanowar Wastes x3 (Of course 4 is best, but they do hurt so 3 is okay)

I do see you are fetching Urborg or a treetop though.

The b/g Elf lands are usually used as well.

Creatures: x16

Chameleon Colossus x1 (You'll want at least 2, if not 3, but expensive)
Wall of Roots x4 (Good anti Doran tech, aggro defense & with cipt lands)
Masked Admirers x3 (He's okay, could be two of, best with elves)
Troll Ascetic x4 (Good, great with hammer of course)
Shriekmaw x4 (Many run at least 2, 4 may be overkill depending on meta)

Sorcerys: x11

Call of the herd x3 (If you don't have Garruk, doesn't seem bad, but you do)
Sylvan Scrying x3 (? I'd go birds or Llanowar elves for mana accel)
Damnation x3 (Never a bad card in an aggro environ)
Profane Command x2 (Very good, some even run more)

Instant x6

Tendrils of corruption x3 (Not good unless you run 3 Urborgs)
Sudden Death x3 (double black mana will be hard to hit some times and tehfaerie never see's play anymore)
Run Namelss Inversion for certain and perhaps a terror/eyeblights ending or two.

Planeswalker: x3

Garruk Wildspeaker x2 (Of course he's great)
Liliana Vess x1 (Not bad either, mostly side board these days though)

Artifacts x3

Loxodon Warhammer x3 (needed without heavy hitters, two may be enough)

SIDEBOARD X15

Tendrils of corruptionsx 1 (doesn't work with mana base above)
Call of the herd x1 (redundant)
Deathmark x3 (very good)
Krosan Grip x3 (a good choice)
Tombstalker x2 (you might consider one, or two main deck as a finisher)
Quagnoth x2 (a decent side board choice)
Extripate x3 (not bad either)
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 29, 2008 - 11:25PM #557
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Date Joined: Jun 25, 2005
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So last night at FNM I went 3-0-1 with the deck posted above. We intentionally tied so we both won an FNM Eternal Witness. We played for fun during the round and I won 2-1 (with no sideboarding) I had a pretty lucky night but this version of the deck is very solid. Although I can not draw a Profane Command when I need one. All in all I am very happy with the deck(minus the fact that I would rather have a Gilt-Leaf Palace instead of Murmuring Bosk) 3x Loxodon Warhammers are almost too many sometimes. I may switch one with the Profane in the board. The hammer is really good against aggro so it is worth a 3rd copy against them but Profane is just too good against everything.


Also do you think Mwonvuli Acid-Moss is a good sideboard card? It kills manlands, it stops Dragonstorm, it helps slow Lark, and fetches a land for you(it would actually warrant 1-2 copies of Murmuring Bosk). Thoughts?
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 30, 2008 - 12:37AM #558
Spyritwind
Date Joined: Mar 23, 2001
Posts: 212
I've considered that card as well. Overall it's better in Doran so they can fetch a Bosk, but would be okay for the rock. I think you'd need to run at least 3 copies though to have a decent chance of getting one soon enough to slow Lark down. Even then this would be a sad top deck after turn 5-7 in many cases. Granted; you could kill a man land and put a land in the grave for goyf if nothing else. I like the idea of the card, but ideally you'd want to cast it turn 3-4 and after that it may be sorta meh.

For Lark I'm thinking 2 Extirpates and 2 Crypts in the board.
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 30, 2008 - 7:44PM #559
TK530
Date Joined: Feb 7, 2008
Posts: 57
Okay so I've been messing around with new ideas. This deck list right here is definitely far more control-based. I am liking it a LOT right now.

Just some ideas here...

Rock On

Deck Size: 6 x 1
Lands: 2 x 2
3 x * Llanowar Wastes
3 x * Forest
2 x * Horizon Canopy
4 x * Swamp
3 x * Caves of Koilos
2 x * Treetop Village
1 x * Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 x * Gilt-Leaf Palace
2 x * Murmuring Bosk
1 x * Pendelhaven
Creatures: 1 x 6
4 x * Birds of Paradise
3 x * Tarmogoyf
3 x * Doran, the Siege Tower
3 x * Troll Ascetic
2 x * Garruk Wildspeaker
1 x * Shriekmaw
2 x * Wall of Roots
Other Spells: 2 x 3
3 x * Loxodon Warhammer
4 x * Nameless Inversion
4 x * Bitterblossom
3 x * Thoughtseize
3 x * Damnation
2 x * Primal Command
2 x * Profane Command
_________________________________
Sideboard:
3 x * Cloudthresher
3 x * Stupor
4 x * Oblivion Ring
3 x * Deathmark
1 x * Necrotic Sliver
1 x * Festercreep


Any suggestions/ideas/etc?
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5 years ago  ::  Apr 03, 2008 - 4:17PM #560
divinityofnumber
Date Joined: Sep 1, 2007
Posts: 44

TK530 wrote:

Okay so I've been messing around with new ideas. This deck list right here is definitely far more control-based. I am liking it a LOT right now.

Just some ideas here...

Rock On

Deck Size: 6 x 1
Lands: 2 x 2
3 x * Llanowar Wastes
3 x * Forest
2 x * Horizon Canopy
4 x * Swamp
3 x * Caves of Koilos
2 x * Treetop Village
1 x * Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 x * Gilt-Leaf Palace
2 x * Murmuring Bosk
1 x * Pendelhaven
Creatures: 1 x 6
4 x * Birds of Paradise
3 x * Tarmogoyf
3 x * Doran, the Siege Tower
3 x * Troll Ascetic
2 x * Garruk Wildspeaker
1 x * Shriekmaw
2 x * Wall of Roots
Other Spells: 2 x 3
3 x * Loxodon Warhammer
4 x * Nameless Inversion
4 x * Bitterblossom
3 x * Thoughtseize
3 x * Damnation
2 x * Primal Command
2 x * Profane Command
_________________________________
Sideboard:
3 x * Cloudthresher
3 x * Stupor
4 x * Oblivion Ring
3 x * Deathmark
1 x * Necrotic Sliver
1 x * Festercreep


Any suggestions/ideas/etc?


Cut out the two primal commands and add one more Garruk and one more Profane. With 4 birds and two wall of roots you have plenty enough mana excel, even with 4 mana you can kill something or do damage, and get a goyf back, or for 5 mana get a doran back in play. Go with 4 goyfs also, in my humble opinion.

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