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4 years ago ::
May 28, 2009 - 7:22AM
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4 years ago ::
May 28, 2009 - 10:49AM
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D&D 4E Herald and M:tG Rules Advisor I expect posters to follow the Code of Conduct, use Basic Etiquette, and avoid Poor Logic. If you don't follow these guidelines, I consider you to be disrespectful to everyone on these forums. If you respond to me without following these guidelines, I consider it a personal attack. I grew up in a bilingual household, which means I am familiar with the difficulties in adopting a different vocabulary and grammar. That doesn't bother me. Persistent use of bad capitalization, affirming the consequent, and flaming bother me a great deal. Rule that I would change: 204.1b
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204.1b Some effects change an object’s card type, supertype, or subtype but specify that the object retains a prior card type, supertype, or subtype. In such cases, all the object’s prior card types, supertypes, and subtypes are retained. This rule applies to effects that use the phrase “in addition to its types” or that state that something is “still a [card type].” Some effects state that an object becomes an “artifact creature”; these effects also allow the object to retain all of its prior card types and subtypes.
"Eight Edition Rules Update"
We eventually decided not to change this template, because players are used to “becomes an artifact creature,” and like it much better. Players were used to Combat on the Stack, but you got rid of that because it was unintuitive. The only phrase needed is "in addition to its types"; the others are misleading and unintuitive.
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4 years ago ::
May 28, 2009 - 11:02AM
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You missed this?
Max Noninfinite Damage (Play Fatal Frenzy  targeting Seedborn Muse  (22291367 mana left): Reiterate  )
Put in the vintage one(s)?
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4 years ago ::
May 28, 2009 - 7:41PM
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You mean the archived thread? I don't think so. Better to have the reference in the other thread. There's two threads in the OP that will eventually get cut, too. I only moved instead of deleted because the new version had just been sticked.
D&D 4E Herald and M:tG Rules Advisor I expect posters to follow the Code of Conduct, use Basic Etiquette, and avoid Poor Logic. If you don't follow these guidelines, I consider you to be disrespectful to everyone on these forums. If you respond to me without following these guidelines, I consider it a personal attack. I grew up in a bilingual household, which means I am familiar with the difficulties in adopting a different vocabulary and grammar. That doesn't bother me. Persistent use of bad capitalization, affirming the consequent, and flaming bother me a great deal. Rule that I would change: 204.1b
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204.1b Some effects change an object’s card type, supertype, or subtype but specify that the object retains a prior card type, supertype, or subtype. In such cases, all the object’s prior card types, supertypes, and subtypes are retained. This rule applies to effects that use the phrase “in addition to its types” or that state that something is “still a [card type].” Some effects state that an object becomes an “artifact creature”; these effects also allow the object to retain all of its prior card types and subtypes.
"Eight Edition Rules Update"
We eventually decided not to change this template, because players are used to “becomes an artifact creature,” and like it much better. Players were used to Combat on the Stack, but you got rid of that because it was unintuitive. The only phrase needed is "in addition to its types"; the others are misleading and unintuitive.
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4 years ago ::
Jul 08, 2009 - 3:50PM
#45
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Date Joined:
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3 years ago ::
Mar 03, 2010 - 12:28PM
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Date Joined:
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Turn 1 Kill Combos
Kills on your first turn (if you need to play second, it is prefixed with 'on the draw')
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Swamp, Dark Ritual x4, Phage the Untouchable, Lightning Greaves.
Equip Phage with the greaves, attack.
Swamp, Dark Ritual x3, cast Nether Traitor and Hatred. Pay 19 life from Hatred, attack for 20.
Mountain, Black Lotus for GGG, cast Channel for 19, then Demonfire for 20.
In a deck with no lands:
Chrome Mox (imprinting Empty the Warrens)
Rite of Flame x2 for Goblin Charbelcher.
Cast and activate Lion's Eye Diamond to activate the charbelcher for 52/53 damage.
Mountain, Raging Goblin. Play Blazing Shoal x2, removing Myojin of Infinite Rage x2.
Attack for 21.
Mountain, Mana Clash (easier than the Turn 0 version, but effectively the same)
(Mountain, Rite of Flame x4) or (Black Lotus for RRR and Seething Song x3).
Dragonstorm with four storm copies.
Bogardan Hellkite x4.
Mountain, cast Rite of Flame x3. (RRRRRRR)
Cast Izzet Guildmage. (RRRRR)
Cast and copy your fourth Rite of Flame (repeat an arbitrarily large number of times) then cast Demonfire.
Mountain, Black Lotus x4.
Cast Searing Wind, then Hidetsugu's Second Rite.
Forest, Black Lotus, sacrifice for False Cure.
Then give your opponents life with (Skyshroud Cutter or Reverent Silence) x4.
Cast Black Lotus.
Move to Declare Attackers step.
(Super-haste) Rocket-Powered Turbo Slug x4.
At some point during your turn, cast one of these four: (Trumpet Blast, Common Cause, Magnify x2, Hearth Charm x2)
Black Lotus x2, Ball Lightning (or Groundbreaker), cast Beserk x2, and attack for 24.
Any land, and cast Lotus Petal, sacrificing for blue, casting Flash to fetch Protean Hulk.
Allow Protean Hulk to die.
Fetch: Disciple of the Vault x4 and Atog x1; Ornithopter x4, Phyrexian Walker x4, Shield Sphere x4, Shifting Wall x4, Phyrexian Marauder x4.
(Converted Mana Cost of X is 0. Up to 80 damage total?)
Swamp, Black Lotus. Cast Dark Ritual for BBB, then sac the lotus for RRR. (BBBRRR)
Cast Pandemonium  with RRRB, then two Phyrexian Dreadnought for Black each.
Deals 24 damage.
Black Lotus x4 and some storm cards, maybe?
Tendrils of Agony, Grapeshot, Mind's Desire.
Swamp, cast Dark Ritual x3. (BBBBBBB and 3 Cards in Hand)
Cast Altar of Dementia. (BBBBB left)
Cast Buried Alive to bury a Karmic Guide and a Changeling Hero. (BB left)
Reanimate Karmic Guide with any one of the following: Animate Dead, Reanimate, Shallow Grave
The Guide's ability recovers the Changling Hero.
As the Champion comes into play, remove Karmic Guide.
Sacrifice the Champion to the Altar of Dementia, and Karmic Guide returns to play.
Repeat as needed.
(Can substitute Blasting Station for Altar of Dementia when using Reanimate)
Swamp, cast Lotus Petal, Dark Ritual, Dark Ritual, and Demonic Tutor (6 mana).
Tutor for Yawgmoth's Will, and play it (1 mana left, 5 spells).
Replay, from your graveyard, the Petal and both Dark Rituals (6 mana, 8 spells).
Tutor for Tendrils of Agony and cast it with 9 storm copies.
On the Draw:
Black Lotus x4, cast Ball Lightning x4 and attack for 24.
heres some other good combos you might not know :
stuffy doll + guilty conciquence
rite of flame + seething song + lotus bloom x2 + dragon storm + bogarden hellkite x4
are both also one shot kill combos !!
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3 years ago ::
May 31, 2010 - 9:38PM
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i have a question i cant get answered i built a deck out of slivers and i have one sliver called crystalline sliver that makes all slivers not be target of spells or abilities and all the other slivers give the abilities like trample first strike and flying to all slivers. so my question is would the crystalline sliver stop the slivers from buffing each other. im not sure but it seems like that is a naturally accuring buff that happens just from the slivers being there and not an ability that actually targets them
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3 years ago ::
Jun 14, 2010 - 2:09PM
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i have a question i cant get answered i built a deck out of slivers and i have one sliver called crystalline sliver that makes all slivers not be target of spells or abilities and all the other slivers give the abilities like trample first strike and flying to all slivers. so my question is would the crystalline sliver stop the slivers from buffing each other. im not sure but it seems like that is a naturally accuring buff that happens just from the slivers being there and not an ability that actually targets them
in my opinion they would still buff each other because they are field abilities...by not being the target of spells or abilities then no one could cast a giant growth on any of them because it would 'target' one of them where as might sliver says ALL sliver get +2/+2 not just on so none of them are being targeted but then again i've been proven wrong ^.^
p.s. slivers areee cheap lol
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3 years ago ::
Jul 11, 2010 - 10:53AM
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Jul 11, 2010
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I recently added a twist to an old but good combo. get underworld dreams, then Teferi's puzzle box, then trow out a memory jar tap and sac at the beginning of your opponants upkeep to do 16 pts of damage in one turn. find the cards and try it. oh by the way try some dark rituals to make it faster.
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3 years ago ::
Jul 18, 2010 - 9:31AM
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Date Joined:
Mar 11, 2010
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i am looking at a combo that i am not sure of how it would work. if i play prized unicorn (all creatures able to block prized unicorn do so) and then equip it with whispering cloak (equiped creature is unblockable) does that end all blocking by an opponent
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