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Tekanan wrote:

I agree with Islands...The only recommendation I can give is more islands...

Urge to quote...rising.

Thoughts on singleton Leech Bonder?

It gives you a repeatable element of creature control and has massive WoR synergy.

Mandorrisem wrote:

Tekanan--This build is like MMPS on steroids, it is faster, more consistant, and outright evil. In fact I would say its pretty similar to affinity.... when affinity had skullclamp..... At least in the way the deck plays. The amount of cheap fast card drawing really warps what the deck is capable of, the 19 lands feels more like playing 24, the 6 removal spells feels more like 9 ect.

The deck doesn't look like it should work with 19 lands, but it does, as many others here have already attested, it just draws so much that your mana is ALWAYS stable, even under heavy disruption.

Also I'm not sure what card you are saying that I am claiming to be a Meta Breaker? Manamorphose? It doesn't "break" anything, but that doesn't mean that EVERY competitive deck in EVERY format shouldn't be playing 4. Manamorphose makes decks into 56 cards instead of 60 AND helps your mana out to boot. Its a silly card that should have never had been printed, but it was and in two months will be the most played card in competitive magic history. It doesn't "break" anything at all, but you would be silly to play a 60 card deck when everyone else is playing a 56 card build with better mana then yours.

Faeries is a straight up joke against this build, as is ManaRamp, the power level of the build with shadowmoor simply outclasses both decktypes, land destruction is a similarly useless strategy against the build, with all the draw, and accelerators the build is virtually busrting with mana, even with only 19 actual lands... what exactly is LD going to do when you are averaging 5 mana sources before they have a chance to destroy one?

You may also notice the builds Mana denial board strategy, Consign to dream...CAN HIT LANDS.... its absolutely bonkers level ridiculous...on the play after board, you can almost garentee locking your opponent on 1 land up till almost turn 5...

while the original MMPS looked more consistent due to the larger number of mana sources, I assure you that this build is FAR more so, while also being enormously powerful.... Its a deck that pretty much never runs out of steam, even in the extreme late game.

I can vouch for this deck. Roy top 4's almost every Friday with that deck(top 8'd and they all split last Friday) and that deck is simple INSANE. he always has mana, draw spells and creatures that draw and big BIG finishers as well. If he gets turn 1 birds, turn 2 driad or wall of roots and you missed a land drop, you'd better believe that one of your lands is gonna get primal commanded to the top of your deck. Or if he gets into the late game and you have wrathed or killed all of his threats he can just shuffle his deck into his library and start all over.

Islands--Leechbonder is decently solid actually...the fact that you have to attack into things to use it though cold prove detrimental... if it was a tap ability rather then an untap ability it would be great....although, it would be kinda funny if I ever decided to play Utopia Vow for some reason :p

61 is correct as far as the original list goes... its still in testing though to see if dropping the numbers on anything else to go to 60 is worth it.

Brine Elemental is absolutely crap, complete trash, theres not a single slot in this build that isn't better then briny is. He is too slow, too weak, and his ability is simply not needed. The best term for him would be "awkward" he just NEVER does what you would want him to do.

The split between wall and dryad has to due with threat ratios, and wrath effect survivability to the mana base. Basically they both effectively do similar things, but the dryad swings, is far more resistant to board sweepers trying to damage your mana base, and helps to thin out your library further. I have not completely eliminated the idea of playing 4 walls AND 4 Dryads, but dryad has been thoroughly proven to be correct as a 4 of, while wall hasn't quite done so. Wall is better on turn 2 no doubt about that, but at almost all other times Dryad tends to be superior, mainly due to its threat status, ability to provide mana even if killed, mana fixing, and deck thinning capability.

Bosk simply put is NUTS with dryad. The coming into play tapped drawback is virtually nonexistant due to most of them being played from your deck anyway. Your other accelerants, and the presence of the changling spell means the Cipt almost never effects what you are doing. Llawanor wastes inability to be grabbed by dryad, combined with the fact that they always damage you even when using them for green definitely put them a step behind bosk. The deck REALLY wants at least 5 forests to fetching with dryad, remember that you will often be copying dryads with shapeshifter for a further mana boost when no better targets are on the board.

Concerning Vision, you don't really need any more card draw, especially heavily limited card draw such as visions... why draw 3 cards 4 turns from now, when you can draw 2 this turn?