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5 years ago  ::  Mar 19, 2008 - 5:03PM #41
Vanguard382
Date Joined: Feb 2, 2008
Posts: 70
Sorry about the extremely long post but just wanted to show a game versus my or OldHats GWb Big Mana version against a GR Big Mana. I have the 2nd game long saved also which I won also. SBed in MAM in place of 2 Search for tomorrow and 2 oblivion rings seeing as I didn't need them at all game one.
Most likely should have kept them for this G2 early garruk but ended up not being a problem. MAM really hurt him killing off his treetop and red sources and giving me even more accel.

After the first game I may never remove the blue splash for Aeon. It gave me so much card advantage and once it came out was once a 8/8 beater and 2nd one a 6/6. True didn't get any damage through but made him use up 2 3/3 beat tokens from Garruk and use up two skreds.

Over all very pleased with how the deck worked against the some what "mirror match" of the same style deck.


Game Verus Toni GWb Big Mana Vs. GR Big Mana

Match Show
0:00:11 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws 7 cards
0:00:14 [Toni] Toni draws 7 cards
0:00:16 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Treetop Village from Hand
0:00:17 [Vanguard382] It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
0:00:23 [Toni] Toni plays Highland Weald from Hand
0:00:23 [Toni] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0:00:29 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Urza's Factory from Hand
0:00:32 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Treetop Village
0:00:32 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Urza's Factory
0:00:33 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Into the North from Hand
0:00:43 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Arctic Flats into play from Library
0:00:46 [Vanguard382] It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
0:00:55 [Toni] Toni plays Snow-Covered Forest from Hand
0:00:57 [Toni] Toni taps Highland Weald
0:00:57 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:00:58 [Toni] Toni plays Tarmogoyf from Hand
0:00:59 [Toni] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0:01:03 [Toni] Tarmogoyf is now 1/2
0:01:05 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Snow-Covered Plains from Hand
0:01:17 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Treetop Village
0:01:17 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Urza's Factory
0:01:18 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Fertile Ground from Hand
0:01:21 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Arctic Flats
0:01:21 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:01:21 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:01:22 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Search for Tomorrow from Hand
0:01:30 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Snow-Covered Forest into play from Library
0:01:32 [Vanguard382] It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
0:01:42 [Toni] Toni plays Snow-Covered Forest from Hand
0:01:43 [Toni] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:01:44 [Vanguard382] Toni taps Tarmogoyf
0:01:44 [Toni] Toni taps Tarmogoyf
0:01:45 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382's life total is now 19 (-1)
0:01:46 [Toni] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0:01:56 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Arctic Flats
0:01:56 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:01:56 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:01:56 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:01:57 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Harmonize from Hand
0:01:58 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:01:58 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:01:59 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:02:01 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Harmonize to Graveyard from Play
0:02:06 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Treetop Village from Hand
0:02:07 [Vanguard382] It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
0:02:17 [Toni] Toni plays Scrying Sheets from Hand
0:02:24 [Toni] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:02:24 [Vanguard382] Toni taps Tarmogoyf
0:02:25 [Toni] Toni taps Tarmogoyf
0:02:27 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382's life total is now 18 (-1)
0:02:33 [Toni] Toni taps Highland Weald
0:02:33 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:02:33 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:02:33 [Toni] Toni taps Scrying Sheets
0:02:34 [Toni] Toni plays Garruk Wildspeaker from Hand
0:02:38 [Toni] Garruk Wildspeaker now has 4 (+4) counters.
0:02:38 [Toni] Toni untaps Highland Weald
0:02:38 [Toni] Toni untaps Snow-Covered Forest
0:02:39 [Toni] Toni taps Highland Weald
0:02:40 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:02:40 [Toni] Toni plays Wall of Roots from Hand
0:02:41 [Toni] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0:02:46 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Snow-Covered Forest from Hand
0:03:03 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Treetop Village
0:03:03 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Urza's Factory
0:03:03 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Arctic Flats
0:03:03 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:03:03 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:03:03 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:03:04 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Aeon Chronicler from Hand
0:03:06 [Vanguard382] Aeon Chronicler now has 1 (+2) counters.
0:03:09 [Vanguard382] End my turn
0:03:26 [Toni] Toni plays Highland Weald from Hand
0:03:32 [Toni] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:03:32 [Vanguard382] Toni taps Tarmogoyf
0:03:32 [Toni] Toni taps Tarmogoyf
0:03:34 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382's life total is now 17 (-1)
0:03:42 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:03:51 [Toni] Toni untaps Highland Weald
0:03:51 [Toni] Toni untaps Snow-Covered Forest
0:03:55 [Toni] Garruk Wildspeaker now has 5 (+1) counters.
0:03:56 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:03:57 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:04:00 [Toni] Toni taps Scrying Sheets
0:04:02 [Toni] Toni plays Chameleon Colossus from Hand
0:04:03 [Toni] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0:04:07 [Vanguard382] Aeon Chronicler now has 1 (-1) counters.
0:04:08 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:04:09 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:04:10 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Snow-Covered Forest from Hand
0:04:20 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Treetop Village
0:04:20 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Urza's Factory
0:04:20 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Arctic Flats
0:04:20 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:04:21 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Wrath of God from Hand
0:04:27 [Toni] Toni puts Tarmogoyf to Graveyard from Play
0:04:27 [Toni] Toni puts Wall of Roots to Graveyard from Play
0:04:28 [Toni] Toni puts Chameleon Colossus to Graveyard from Play
0:04:28 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Wrath of God to Graveyard from Play
0:04:31 [Vanguard382] Thinking
0:04:43 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:04:43 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Treetop Village
0:04:43 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:04:43 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:04:44 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Harmonize from Hand
0:04:45 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:04:45 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:04:46 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:04:49 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Harmonize to Graveyard from Play
0:05:01 [Vanguard382] It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
0:05:02 [Vanguard382] End my turn
0:05:04 [Toni] It is now turn 13 (Toni)
0:05:04 [Toni] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:05:06 [Toni] Toni untaps his/her permanents
0:05:06 [Toni] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:05:07 [Toni] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:05:07 [Toni] Toni draws a card
0:05:07 [Toni] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:05:11 [Toni] Toni plays Treetop Village from Hand
0:05:16 [Toni] Garruk Wildspeaker now has 4 (-1) counters.
0:05:19 [Toni] Toni puts a 3/3 Beast token into play
0:05:21 [Vanguard382] Ok
0:05:24 [Toni] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0:05:25 [Toni] End my turn
0:05:28 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:05:28 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:05:30 [Vanguard382] Aeon Chronicler now has 0 (-1) counters.
0:05:39 [Vanguard382] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:05:40 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Aeon Chronicler
0:05:40 [Toni] Vanguard382 taps Aeon Chronicler
0:05:42 [Vanguard382] Aeon Chronicler is now 8/8
0:05:47 [Vanguard382] Ok
0:05:51 [Toni] Toni taps Highland Weald
0:05:52 [Toni] Toni plays Skred from Hand
0:05:58 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Aeon Chronicler to Graveyard from Play
0:05:58 [Toni] Toni destroys token Beast
0:05:58 [Vanguard382] Ok
0:05:59 [Toni] Toni puts Skred to Graveyard from Play
0:06:01 [Vanguard382] It is now the Postcombat Main Phase
0:06:04 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Treetop Village
0:06:05 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Search for Tomorrow from Hand
0:06:08 [Vanguard382] Search for Tomorrow now has 2 (+2) counters.
0:06:36 [Vanguard382] Thinking
0:06:47 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Arctic Flats
0:06:47 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:06:47 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:06:47 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:06:47 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Treetop Village
0:06:47 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:06:49 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 untaps Snow-Covered Plains
0:06:50 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:06:51 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Crovax, Ascendant Hero from Hand
0:06:53 [Vanguard382] It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
0:06:54 [Vanguard382] End my turn
0:07:15 [Toni] Toni taps Highland Weald
0:07:16 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:07:16 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:07:16 [Toni] Toni taps Scrying Sheets
0:07:16 [Toni] Toni taps Highland Weald
0:07:16 [Toni] Toni taps Treetop Village
0:07:19 [Toni] Garruk Wildspeaker now has 5 (+1) counters.
0:07:20 [Toni] Toni untaps Highland Weald
0:07:21 [Toni] Toni untaps Highland Weald
0:07:21 [Toni] Toni taps Highland Weald
0:07:22 [Toni] Toni taps Highland Weald
0:07:23 [Toni] Toni plays Bogardan Hellkite from Hand
0:07:52 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382's life total is now 14 (-3)
0:07:53 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Crovax, Ascendant Hero to Hand from Play
0:07:54 [Vanguard382] Ok?
0:07:56 [Toni] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0:07:57 [Toni] End my turn
0:08:00 [Vanguard382] Search for Tomorrow now has 1 (-1) counters.
0:08:01 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:08:05 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Arctic Flats
0:08:05 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Fertile Ground from Hand
0:08:07 [Vanguard382] Fertile Ground is enchanting Snow-Covered Plains now
0:08:09 [Vanguard382] Fertile Ground is enchanting no target now
0:08:17 [Vanguard382] It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
0:08:18 [Vanguard382] End my turn
0:08:24 [Toni] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:08:26 [Toni] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:08:27 [Vanguard382] Toni taps Bogardan Hellkite
0:08:27 [Toni] Toni taps Bogardan Hellkite
0:08:29 [Vanguard382] rsp
0:08:31 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:08:31 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:08:31 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Treetop Village
0:08:31 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:08:31 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:08:31 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:08:32 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Cloudthresher from Hand
0:08:33 [Vanguard382] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Blockers Step
0:08:36 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382's life total is now 12 (-2)
0:08:38 [Toni] Toni's life total is now 18 (-2)
0:08:42 [Toni] Toni puts Bogardan Hellkite to Graveyard from Play
0:08:50 [Toni] Toni taps Highland Weald
0:08:52 [Toni] Toni taps Scrying Sheets
0:08:54 [Toni] Toni plays Incinerate from Hand
0:08:56 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Cloudthresher to Graveyard from Play
0:08:57 [Toni] Toni puts Incinerate to Graveyard from Play
0:08:59 [Toni] It is now the Postcombat Main Phase
0:09:01 [Toni] Garruk Wildspeaker now has 4 (-1) counters.
0:09:04 [Toni] Toni puts a 3/3 Beast token into play
0:09:05 [Toni] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0:09:06 [Toni] End my turn
0:09:09 [Vanguard382] Search for Tomorrow now has 0 (-1) counters.
0:09:10 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Search for Tomorrow to Graveyard from Play
0:09:11 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 is looking its Library...
0:09:15 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Snow-Covered Plains into play from Library
0:09:15 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 shuffles library
0:09:15 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 stops looking its Library...
0:09:16 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 shuffles library
0:09:17 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:09:23 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Arctic Flats
0:09:23 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:09:23 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:09:23 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:09:34 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Treetop Village
0:09:35 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Urza's Factory
0:09:36 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Aeon Chronicler from Hand
0:09:40 [Vanguard382] Aeon Chronicler now has 2 (+2) counters.
0:09:44 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:09:44 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Treetop Village
0:09:44 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:09:44 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:09:44 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:09:48 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Primal Command from Hand
0:09:51 [Vanguard382] +7 and search
0:09:54 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382's life total is now 19 (+7)
0:09:55 [Toni] Ok
0:09:57 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 is looking its Library...
0:10:01 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Akroma, Angel of Wrath into play from Library
0:10:02 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 shuffles library
0:10:02 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 stops looking its Library...
0:10:03 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Primal Command to Graveyard from Play
0:10:03 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Akroma, Angel of Wrath to Hand from Play
0:10:05 [Vanguard382] It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
0:10:06 [Vanguard382] End my turn
0:10:12 [Toni] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:10:20 [Toni] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:10:21 [Vanguard382] Toni taps Beast
0:10:21 [Toni] Toni taps Beast
0:10:22 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382's life total is now 16 (-3)
0:10:24 [Vanguard382] Ok
0:10:25 [Toni] It is now the Postcombat Main Phase
0:10:31 [Toni] Toni taps Highland Weald
0:10:31 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:10:32 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:10:32 [Toni] Toni taps Scrying Sheets
0:10:32 [Toni] Toni taps Highland Weald
0:10:32 [Toni] Toni taps Treetop Village
0:10:34 [Toni] Garruk Wildspeaker now has 5 (+1) counters.
0:10:36 [Toni] Toni plays Bogardan Hellkite from Hand
0:10:38 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382's life total is now 11 (-5)
0:10:40 [Toni] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0:10:41 [Toni] End my turn
0:10:45 [Vanguard382] Aeon Chronicler now has 1 (-1) counters.
0:10:46 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:10:46 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:10:47 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Snow-Covered Forest from Hand
0:10:49 [Vanguard382] Thinking
0:11:12 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Arctic Flats
0:11:12 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:11:12 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:11:12 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:11:12 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:11:12 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Primal Command from Hand
0:11:21 [Vanguard382] +7 and top of your deck
0:11:24 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382's life total is now 18 (+7)
0:11:27 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Primal Command to Graveyard from Play
0:11:38 [Vanguard382] It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
0:11:38 [Toni] Toni puts a Garruk Wildspeaker on top of Library from Play
0:11:44 [Vanguard382] End my turn
0:11:47 [Toni] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:11:52 [Toni] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:11:53 [Vanguard382] Toni taps Bogardan Hellkite
0:11:53 [Toni] Toni taps Bogardan Hellkite
0:11:55 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:11:56 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Condemn from Hand
0:12:03 [Toni] Toni's life total is now 23 (+5)
0:12:05 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Condemn to Graveyard from Play
0:12:05 [Toni] Toni puts a Bogardan Hellkite on bottom of Library from Play
0:12:07 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:12:08 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:12:09 [Toni] Toni taps Treetop Village
0:12:10 [Toni] Toni taps Highland Weald
0:12:11 [Toni] Toni plays Garruk Wildspeaker from Hand
0:12:13 [Vanguard382] Ok
0:12:14 [Toni] Garruk Wildspeaker now has 2 (+2) counters.
0:12:17 [Toni] Toni duplicates Beast
0:12:19 [Vanguard382] Ok
0:12:19 [Toni] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0:12:20 [Toni] End my turn
0:12:24 [Vanguard382] Aeon Chronicler now has 0 (-1) counters.
0:12:25 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:12:26 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:12:51 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Urza's Factory
0:12:51 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Arctic Flats
0:12:51 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:12:51 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:12:51 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:12:51 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Treetop Village
0:12:51 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:12:51 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:12:53 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Akroma, Angel of Wrath from Hand
0:12:58 [Vanguard382] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:13:00 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Aeon Chronicler
0:13:00 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Akroma, Angel of Wrath
0:13:00 [Toni] Vanguard382 taps Aeon Chronicler
0:13:00 [Toni] Vanguard382 taps Akroma, Angel of Wrath
0:13:05 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 untaps Akroma, Angel of Wrath
0:13:05 [Toni] Vanguard382 untaps Akroma, Angel of Wrath
0:13:09 [Vanguard382] Aeon Chronicler is now 6/6
0:13:15 [Vanguard382] Ok
0:13:15 [Toni] Toni's life total is now 17 (-6)
0:13:16 [Toni] Toni destroys token Beast
0:13:18 [Vanguard382] It is now the Postcombat Main Phase
0:13:25 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:13:25 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:13:25 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:13:26 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Treetop Village
0:13:27 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Garruk Wildspeaker from Hand
0:13:30 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Garruk Wildspeaker to Graveyard from Play
0:13:33 [Toni] Toni puts Garruk Wildspeaker to Graveyard from Play
0:13:34 [Vanguard382] It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
0:13:35 [Vanguard382] End my turn
0:13:36 [Toni] Toni taps Highland Weald
0:13:37 [Toni] Toni plays Skred from Hand
0:13:40 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Aeon Chronicler to Graveyard from Play
0:13:41 [Toni] Toni puts Skred to Graveyard from Play
0:13:42 [Toni] It is now turn 23 (Toni)
0:13:42 [Toni] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:13:43 [Toni] Toni untaps his/her permanents
0:13:44 [Toni] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:13:44 [Toni] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0:13:44 [Toni] Toni draws a card
0:13:44 [Toni] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:13:48 [Toni] Toni plays Snow-Covered Mountain from Hand
0:13:50 [Toni] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0:13:51 [Toni] End my turn
0:13:52 [Vanguard382] It is now turn 24 (Vanguard382)
0:13:52 [Vanguard382] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0:13:53 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 untaps his/her permanents
0:13:53 [Vanguard382] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:13:54 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:13:56 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Arctic Flats
0:13:57 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Fertile Ground from Hand
0:14:05 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:14:05 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:14:05 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:14:05 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:14:06 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Harmonize from Hand
0:14:07 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:14:07 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:14:08 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 draws a card
0:14:09 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Harmonize to Graveyard from Play
0:14:12 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Mouth of Ronom from Hand
0:14:19 [Vanguard382] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:14:20 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Akroma, Angel of Wrath
0:14:20 [Toni] Vanguard382 taps Akroma, Angel of Wrath
0:14:21 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 untaps Akroma, Angel of Wrath
0:14:21 [Toni] Vanguard382 untaps Akroma, Angel of Wrath
0:14:22 [Toni] Toni's life total is now 11 (-6)
0:14:29 [Vanguard382] It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
0:14:30 [Vanguard382] End my turn
0:14:32 [Toni] Toni taps Scrying Sheets
0:14:32 [Toni] Toni taps Treetop Village
0:14:32 [Toni] Toni taps Snow-Covered Mountain
0:14:35 [Toni] Toni is looking top 1 cards of its Library...
0:14:37 [Toni] Toni puts Snow-Covered Forest into play from Library
0:14:38 [Toni] Toni stops looking its Library...
0:14:39 [Toni] Toni puts Snow-Covered Forest to Hand from Play
0:14:42 [Toni] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0:14:47 [Toni] Toni plays Snow-Covered Forest from Hand
0:14:55 [Toni] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0:14:56 [Toni] End my turn
0:15:01 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Horizon Canopy from Hand
0:15:07 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Urza's Factory
0:15:07 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Arctic Flats
0:15:07 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:15:07 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:15:07 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:15:08 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Primal Command from Hand
0:15:11 [Vanguard382] +7 and search
0:15:14 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382's life total is now 25 (+7)
0:15:16 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 is looking its Library...
0:15:18 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Cloudthresher into play from Library
0:15:18 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 shuffles library
0:15:18 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 stops looking its Library...
0:15:19 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Primal Command to Graveyard from Play
0:15:20 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 puts Cloudthresher to Hand from Play
0:15:36 [Vanguard382] Fertile Ground is enchanting Snow-Covered Forest now
0:15:41 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:15:41 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Treetop Village
0:15:41 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:15:41 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Forest
0:15:41 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Snow-Covered Plains
0:15:41 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Fertile Ground
0:15:43 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 plays Crovax, Ascendant Hero from Hand
0:15:45 [Vanguard382] Akroma, Angel of Wrath is now 7/7
0:15:46 [Vanguard382] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0:15:47 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 taps Akroma, Angel of Wrath
0:15:47 [Toni] Vanguard382 taps Akroma, Angel of Wrath
0:15:52 [Toni] Toni's life total is now 4 (-7)
0:15:54 [Vanguard382] Vanguard382 untaps Akroma, Angel of Wrath
0:15:54 [Toni] Vanguard382 untaps Akroma, Angel of Wrath
0:15:55 [Vanguard382] It is now the End Phase, Cleanup Step
0:15:55 [Vanguard382] End my turn
0:16:01 [Toni] It is now the Precombat Main Phase

He conceded after this and went to next game.


Edit: Completely spaced out of using sblocks fixed that heh.
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 19, 2008 - 5:10PM #42
Shivan1701D
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helghast101 wrote:

In my list what should I put in place of Garruk and the colossuses?


If you want to keep it cheap, go -3 Garruk +3 Mwonvuli Acid-Moss and in the sideboard go -4 CC +2 Quagnoth , and Maybe you could get away with +2 Whirling Dervish . If you can afford the Garruks and CC I suggest you play with them though. Maybe cut CC down to two and keep the Quagnoth as a two of.

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 19, 2008 - 5:14PM #43
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If you are going to post stuff that long, throw it in an sblock please!
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 19, 2008 - 5:21PM #44
Helghast101
Date Joined: May 29, 2005
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Creatures: 14
3 Cloudthresher
4 Siege-gang Commander
3 Troll Ascetic
4 Wall Of Roots

Stuffs: 22
4 Incinerate
4 Skred
4 Harmonize
4 Into The North
2 Molten Disaster
2 Mwonvulli- Acid Moss
2 Search for Tomorrow

Land: 24
7 Snow-covered Forest
5 Snow-covered Mountain
1 Karplusan Forest
4 Treetop Village
4 Highland Weald
2 Mouth Of Ronom
1 Scrying Sheets

Sideboard: 15
1 Razormane Masticore
2 Mwonvulli- Acid Moss
1 Troll Ascetic
2 Whirling Dervish
2 Ancient Grudge
2 Akroma, Angel Of Fury
1 Molten Disaster
4 Sulfurous Blast

hows it look?
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 19, 2008 - 5:33PM #45
Velict
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Invasion of the budget lists!

Anyways, play Troll Ascetic instead of Quagnoth (Quagnoth is very mediocre, not to mention slow). Tarmogoyf sees play partially because he can make a hand without accel worth keeping, as you'll live through the early game.
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 19, 2008 - 5:34PM #46
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updated
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 19, 2008 - 9:29PM #47
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Now that is a total meta call. I would almost always prefer Quagnoth. Aside from mana cost, I think he is stronger all around. I would hate to need to leave two extra mana open when I Sulfurous Blast or Molten Disaster to make sure I don't nuke my own critter. Big Q, however, makes it in through counter protection and can't be hurt by most mass-removal except Damnation/Wrath, which kills Troll too. Just playing Devil's Advocate here, because I have used Big Q and Troll before.

Velict wrote:

Invasion of the budget lists!

Anyways, play Troll Ascetic instead of Quagnoth (Quagnoth is very mediocre, not to mention slow). Tarmogoyf sees play partially because he can make a hand without accel worth keeping, as you'll live through the early game.


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5 years ago  ::  Mar 19, 2008 - 11:17PM #48
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Chameleon Colossus is an amazing addition for G/R Big Mana. Its a great win-con in itself, you can drop it turn 3, overrun and swing for 14. It means game over against any mono black control, mannequin, mono B rogues, and it's hard to deal with for Doran, Classic Faeries, and any deck that runs black removal suites. Loxodon Warhammer with this guy is insane, I'd recommend at least 1 hammer if you run him.
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 19, 2008 - 11:43PM #49
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helghast101 wrote:

I know this deck is called big mana... but i noticed it only runs about 8 accelerants... why not llanowar elves ?


A few reasons.

Llanowar Elves jumps acceleration from 1 to 3. There are few if any 3 CC spells in Big Mana, therefore the early acceleration is often irrelevant. What you want is something that jumps from 2 to 4 (Wall of Roots, Into the North, Search for Tomorrow kinda, Fertile Ground), because we have several amazing 4 CC drops (Garruk, MAM, Harmonize, Sulf. Blast, Chameleon Colossus).

It dies to any of the mass removal both variants play (Well, it's kind of hard to survive Wrath in the first place, but it dies to Pyroclasm as well).

It doesn't stall aggro like Wall of Roots can.

You don't want too many accelerants, or you risk drawing into a ****load of them, with nothing to spend the mana on. It's like filling up your gas tank with Premium gas and having nowhere to go.

It's pretty easy for your opponents to get rid of. Not so much with Wall of Roots, as most removal that could touch it costs more than the wall does, giving you tempo. Plus, it's just a friggin' wall. Who gets rid of a wall?

8 CIPT lands makes it difficult to guarantee that one green mana on turn one.

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2008 - 12:25AM #50
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kodiak007 wrote:

Hello,

Last FNM, I play against the BigMana(snow version) with a goblin deck. I lost badly to their huge creature.

So I know that deck is pretty good but have some diffuculities with counter deck.

I am wondering if there is version without the snow land, Mouth Of Ronom , and Skred . it is hard to get those cards around my place other than at ebay.

Surely there is advantage and disadvantage of running with snow or without the snow.

would be really cool to see list with Chameleon Colossus and Loxodon Warhammer .

thank you for your time.

oh by the way what is MAM


You can play without snow and still do very well. But the truth is, there is not really a disadvantage to running snow. You replace rampant growth with search for tomorrow , which allows you to run a couple snow-duals ( highland weald ) and mouth of ronom . Not to mention Skred . I think if you try basics, rampant growth, an incinerate, you will still do quite alright.

MAM is Mwonvuli Acid-Moss .

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