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5 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2008 - 2:37PM #1
eput-ka
Date Joined: Dec 15, 2007
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[FONT="Arial"]recently during a school tournement, i was playign a two-headed game and a rules dispute came up that wont die until we have expert opinion. our oppenent had a silvergill douser and i attacked with a 2/2 steadfast gaurd that i had stolen using sower of temptation.he tapped teh douser to give him -4/-0, and then my partner used ovinize to prevent that.would teh effect still happen or did we prevent it?[/FONT]
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5 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2008 - 2:39PM #2
UndieingShadows
Date Joined: Oct 27, 2007
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silvergill douser 's ability would still resolve leaving your steadfast guard a 0/2 even though the douser would lose the ability
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5 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2008 - 2:39PM #3
Gerdef
Date Joined: Aug 25, 2006
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eput-ka wrote:

[FONT="Arial"]recently during a school tournement, i was playign a two-headed game and a rules dispute came up that wont die until we have expert opinion. our oppenent had a silvergill douser and i attacked with a 2/2 steadfast gaurd that i had stolen using sower of temptation.he tapped teh douser to give him -4/-0, and then my partner used ovinize to prevent that.would teh effect still happen or did we prevent it?[/FONT]


Assuming you used the Ovinize on the Douser...

The effect will still happen. Once an ability has been played, it exists independent of its source. Even if the Douser no longer has the ability, the -X/-0 will still occur.

You would have to counter the ability itself with a card like Stifle , Voidslime , or Trickbind .
EDIT: Or ability, as exists on Voidmage Husher .

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5 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2008 - 2:40PM #4
cyphern
Date Joined: Jan 19, 2003
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[noparse] Steadfast guard [/noparse] -> Steadfast guard
Silvergill douser
Ovinize

he tapped teh douser to give him -4/-0, and then my partner used ovinize to prevent that.would teh effect still happen


No. It will still resolve.

Once an ability is played, it exists independantly of its source, and nothing you do to the source will counter the ability. You can respond to the ability, but the ability will still respond unless it is countered .

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5 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2008 - 2:42PM #5
eput-ka
Date Joined: Dec 15, 2007
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thank you.
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