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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2007 - 1:56AM
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RED DECK WINS    INTRODUCTIONSpoiler:
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RDW is a great deck that has taken the magic world to the next level in standard due to already winning the MSS finals, the GB nationals and even coming to the top 8 of the US nationals in the short time it has been around post 10th. DESCRIPTIONSpoiler:
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DIFFERENCES BETWEEN RDW AND SLIGHSpoiler:
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The main difference Between this deck and sligh builds is that this focuses more on burn while sligh focuses mainly on creature beatdown. Also RDW is an a lot more aggressive deck and is expected to have very short matches against most decks. THE MANA CURVESpoiler:
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The mana curve for RDW should follow a plan similar to this:
1cc - 20+
2cc - 10+
3cc - 0-8
4cc - 0-4 CREATURESSpoiler:
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Mogg Fanatic
Great little thing this. Auto-Include.
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Inner-Flame Acolyte
Good hasty beats.
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Martyr of Ashes
Good mass removal.
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Keldon Marauders
A good beatstick that burns the opponent when it appears and when it dies.
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Greater Gargadon
A great creature that can stop the second effects of cards like Tendrils of Corruption.
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Mogg War Marshal
A must when using Greater Gargadon
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Gathan Raiders
A reasonable beatstick, synergy with Fiery Temper.
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Sulfur Elemental
Split second, flash, and you can say goodbye to all those pesky */1 white creatures
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Blood Knight
Remember how Silver Knight was annoying against red decks, its payback time.
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Spark Elemental
3 damage for 1 mana though not definite.
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Tarmogoyf
Powerful creature. Used when splashing green.
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Troll Ascetic
An untargetable, regenerating beatstick. Used when splashing green. PLANESWALKERSSpoiler:
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Lash Out
A possible 2 Incinerates in 1 card.
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Heatshimmer
Kills legendary creatures and causes more damage when copying a another big creature.
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Tarfire
A better shock. Deals 2 damage for 1 mana though pumps up Tarmogoyf by more aswell.
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Ghostfire
Colourless Damage.
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Dead/Gone
Kills small creatures, bounces big creatures.
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Sudden Shock
An un-counterable shock.
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Rift Bolt
Not as good as Lightning Bolt, but still a great burn spell. Staple.
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Incinerate
Much improved from the Volcanic Hammer in 9th. Staple.
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Shock
It is a shock.
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Browbeat
Deal 5 damage or draw 3 cards.
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Fiery Temper
Great burn spell when used in conjunction with Gathan Raiders LANDSpoiler:
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Pendelhaven
A pumping land to help deal more damage with your little 1/1s
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Kher Keep
2 mana and this to block all day and delay the opponent's victory. Good with Gargadon.
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Zoetic Cavern
Just another land, though this one can be played as a creature.
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Keldon Megaliths
A burning land
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Ghitu Encampment
Red manland.
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Treetop Village
Green manland. Used when splashing green.
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Karplusan Forest
Land used for splashing green
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Grove of the Burnwillows
Another land used for splashing green
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Mountain
Without a load of these, you'll lose. SIDEBOARDSpoiler:
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Cryoclasm
An amazing SB card for this deck.
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Threaten
Afraid of big creatures your opponents play? Don’t be. Take their creature a hit them in the head before they do.
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Manabarbs
Great vs. control matchups.
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Eyes of the Wisent
Kills off blue counter decks. Used when splashing green.
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Krosan Grip
Artifact/Enchantment removal. Used when splashing green.
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Pithing Needle
An ultimate SB card.
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Magus of the Moon
Anti-Alotofdecks (sort of)
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Anything else you want to include depending on your metagame. SAMPLE DECKLISTS - POST 10th EDITIONSpoiler:
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THE MATCHUPSSpoiler:
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At the moment I am unable to say any specific matchups for RDW for the current metagame, so if anyone has any matchup information for RDW that they would like to share, I'd add it to this section of the thread. Thanks.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2007 - 4:17AM
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Mirrior match is always a challenge. Another is B/G Goyf. That deck is good. I hate playing it. Last Friday I ran into it and gave me a run for my money. I think control would be difficult if they draw the right cards. It all really depends on what the player is doing and sideboarding.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2007 - 7:30AM
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I think the OP is missing Dead/Gone and Sudden Shock. Dead/Gone is a killer versus the current meta, as is Sudden Shock. Maybe Stingscourger? Since he's a way to deal with blockers, and can be sacced to Gargadon when his Echo is on the stack.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2007 - 8:37AM
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My decks record currently is 13 - 1 - 1, with 2 losses one being from one of my best friend's combo decks using Haakon + Sliver + Bitter Ordeal + Skeletal Changeling allowing him to deck me for 60 by infinitely sac'ing the Changeling to the Sliver. The draw was from states and I played against a really good U/B Teachings Deck and the guy playing it was great, fun match all around and very challenging. His deck was loaded with creature removal, sudden deaths, terrors, shriekmaws, damnations and he had some tempo killers like Venser, Teferi, and of course counters. We decided to draw the match so that I'd take the 2 boxes and he'd take the plaque + being the winner. RDW w/ Goyf[FONT="Arial Narrow"]
Main Deck:
Lands: 21
4 x Karplusan Forest
2 x Treetop Village
2 x Keldon Megaliths
1 x Pendelhaven
2 x Forest
10 x Mountain
Creatures: 23
4 x Greater Gargadon
4 x Tarmogoyf
4 x Keldon Marauders
4 x Mogg War Marshal
4 x Mogg Fanatic
3 x Martyr of Ashes
Spells: 16
4 x Incinerate
4 x Rift Bolt
4 x Tarfire
3 x Call of the Herd
1 x Threaten
Sideboard:
4 x Manabarbs
3 x Threaten
3 x Magus of the Moon
2 x Ancient Grudge
2 x Krosan Grip
1 x Martyr of Ashes
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2007 - 9:45AM
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According to BDM, splashing  into RDW, gives you SadinGruul.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2007 - 10:27AM
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Technically that's true, but it still has the major elements to RDW, so I'm assuming you can interchange the names. I could care less about the name than I do about the deck itself so whatever ;D
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2007 - 12:26PM
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According to BDM, splashing into RDW, gives you SadinGruul.
Currently speaking GR aggro families are a mess, and no one knows where one starts and another ends. Then again, basically every deck runs mono red and touches green for goyf... this trait is pretty common. Plus, I dislike contradicting the OP but this deck IS actually sligh.
AND THIS SHOULD BE IN DTB. The fact that it's not is astoundingly absurd.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2007 - 12:59PM
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AND THIS SHOULD BE IN DTB. The fact that it's not is astoundingly absurd.
DtB are proven in the tourney scene, and there were ~probably~ not alot that were ran at States. The current DtB was defined by the T'8s for States.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2007 - 1:07PM
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DtB are proven in the tourney scene, and there were ~probably~ not alot that were ran at States. The current DtB was defined by the T'8s for States.
Actually, it was made to be moved to the DtB. The WizO's requested it.
They just haven't gotten to it yet.
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2 years ago ::
Nov 04, 2007 - 1:45PM
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DtB are proven in the tourney scene, and there were ~probably~ not alot that were ran at States. The current DtB was defined by the T'8s for States.
Yes, and despite the expectations of many -me included, as I saw this deck disappear locally- this deck T8'd a lot at States.
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