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6/19/09 Announcement
10 months ago  ::  Jun 18, 2009 - 11:26PM #11
Flopfoot
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Crop rotation for Tolarian Academy could be good...
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10 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2009 - 3:53AM #12
Wizard_of_Thay
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Entomb...they definitely want Dragon back in the metagame.


I'm not sure that Entomb would have even been pn their radar had it not been for Troy's letter: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1193498

It was all over the 'net. WB Dragon!

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10 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2009 - 6:30AM #13
Qmark
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Leftconsin wrote:

From what I have read I can gather that WotC has an internal list of cards they will absolutely not restrict in Vintage no matter what happens.
The list as I understand it Show

Force of Will
Mana Drain
Bazaar of Baghdad
Mishra's Workshop
Dark Ritual


Oh for the love of...
This is that insipid Necro-dance all over again.

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10 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2009 - 7:54AM #14
scumbling1
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jayhoegh wrote:

I don't play vintage, but can anyone tell me why Thirst for Knowledge is getting restricted?


Because Thirst has been a staple draw engine in many dominant Blue decks since it's printing: Control Slaver, Gifts, Bomberman, Tezz, ect; Wizards wants it to be impossible to consistenly find other broken blue cards.

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10 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2009 - 2:50PM #15
cooljeanius
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Yay about Enlightened Tutor!
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10 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2009 - 4:02PM #16
CoreyK88
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Flopfoot wrote:

Crop rotation for Tolarian Academy could be good...


I splashed green in my Academy deck solely for the one copy of Crop Rotation I could play (as well as 4x Tree of Tales :D). 4x Crop Rotation doesn't sound too bad... :evillaugh

Even as a worst case scenario, they can be used as Mind Over Matter fodder.

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10 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2009 - 9:23PM #17
Fife
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Why do they keep nerfing blue card draw? I can understand brainstorm, but ponder seems a little weird because it is worse without brainstorm but adding Thirst for Knowledge to the banned list on top of ponder and brain storm seems ridiculous. Is blue really still really that broken?
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10 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2009 - 9:39PM #18
scumbling1
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Mostly, it's that Mana Drain is that broken.
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10 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2009 - 10:25PM #19
Jyalt
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Fife wrote:

Why do they keep nerfing blue card draw? I can understand brainstorm, but ponder seems a little weird because it is worse without brainstorm but adding Thirst for Knowledge to the banned list on top of ponder and brain storm seems ridiculous. Is blue really still really that broken?


In the right deck, Thirst For Knowledge reads 'draw 3 cards, discard target broken artifact and activate goblin welder.' It's OK in the tezzeret deck too, which is dominant right now. I could see why they'd restrict it.

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10 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2009 - 11:21PM #20
JohnnyComeLately
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Is Crop Rotation maybe a little bit worse with the removal of floating mana between phases? I, personally, never did that, so I don't know if it was a significant contributor to it's power or not
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