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Apr 17, 2008 - 10:13AM
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I think you are missing my question because it stands out like a sore thumb to you, but to me I'm still having a hard time seeing it. Could you please explain what that last part is supposed to mean then?
In the second combat damage step, surviving attackers and blockers that didn't assign combat damage in the first step, plus any creatures with double strike, assign their combat damage.-
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5 years ago ::
Apr 17, 2008 - 10:14AM
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Tell my mythos, does that statement that you keep bolding and underlining define where they assign their combat damage to?
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5 years ago ::
Apr 17, 2008 - 10:18AM
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Look dude I'm not trying to be rude here, just asking a question and bolding and underlining so people can understand what I am getting at, and it should be "Tell me Mythos" not "Tell my Mythos". If you can't explain it then fine, but no need to be rude. And no it doesn't say where it should assign it because it is aimed at a defending player, a creature blocked but is now removed, a creature with double strike it says now gets to assign its combat damage, no creature in the way, the player as the intended target, hence I figure it would go to the player.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 17, 2008 - 10:22AM
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"Tell me[b]Mythos" not "Tell my Mythos". If you can't explain it then fine, but no need to be rude. Thank you for correcting me. [b]Clearly my typo was both misleading and rude, and was undoubtedly intended to demean and belittle you.
The rule you are quoting is used to distinguish which creatures assign damage in the First Combat Damage step, and which ones assign damage in the Second Combat Damage step. It describes the set of creatures that assign their combat damage, but does not alter the way in which combat damage is assigned.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 17, 2008 - 10:23AM
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Every relevant rule has already been pointed out to you. What more do you want from us?
Read 310.2c again, then please tell me where it says that the creature with Doublestrike became unblocked.
EDIT: If you really want to insist that they are still contradictory then fine, there's still no problem. Remember that Can't ALWAYS trumps Can in Magic. Your rule says they "can" assign damage, but 310.2c says they "can't". 310.2c wins.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 17, 2008 - 10:26AM
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You just can't say sorry. Forget it, I'll ask someone who know's how to explain things. This is a board for questions and answers, not for shallow people to get kicks off of acting like knowledge gods. To the serious people who posted replys and tried to explain it, I thank you.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 17, 2008 - 10:31AM
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I did not appologize because i did not feel anything i said was rude, and thus an appology was not warrented. Looking back at my posts, the only rude comment i made was in response to your rude comment. I'm sorry i wasnt able to explain the rules to your satisfaction. Have a nice day.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 17, 2008 - 10:32AM
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Thank you, same to you.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 17, 2008 - 10:47AM
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Rule 502.28b just tells you when creatures get to assign combat damage. (Usually creatures with first strike assign their combat damage in the first combat damage step, ccreatures without first strike in the second combat damage step and creatures with double strike in both). The rule does not tell you how a creature deals its combat damage; that is what 310.2 covers. Whenever one of your creatures is to deal its combat damage you look at 310.2 to see what happens. In your case when the Cavalier is to assign its damage in the second combat damage step this rule applies: 310.2c A blocked creature will assign combat damage, divided as its controller chooses, to the creatures blocking it. If no creatures are currently blocking it (if, for example, they were destroyed or removed from combat), it will assign no combat damage. It does not matter what happened in the first combat damage step.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 17, 2008 - 11:49AM
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Could you please explain what that last part is supposed to mean then?
In the second combat damage step, surviving attackers and blockers that didn't assign combat damage in the first step, plus any creatures with double strike, assign their combat damage.- let's walk through it...
the first part defines where it's applicable ie "In the second combat damage step,"
the next phrase defines a set of creatures ie "surviving attackers and blockers that didn't assign combat damage in the first step"
the next phrase adds more creatures to the previous set ie "plus any creatures with double strike"
the final phrase defines what this set of creature does ie "assign their combat damage."
so now that is the set of creatures that can assign their damage in the second combat damage step...
the other rule (310.2) is a catch-all rule that explains how all creatures assign their damage.
so Double Strike notwithstanding, a creature without first strike or double strike that did not deal damage in the first combat damage step can now assign damage (as can a creature with Double Strike) but how can they assign the damage?
are they blocked? if no, they can assign it to the player/planeswalker they are attacking if yes, they can assign it to the blocking creatures (if any are remaining) note: a creature remains blocked even if he no longer has any creatures blocking it
310.2c clearly explains what happens when a blocked creature is to assign damage but it has no blocking creatures to assign it to.
example
I attack with a creature, you block it with you creature, then before damage is assigned you bounce it to your hand with unsummon. What happens?
my creature was blocked and remains blocked but has no blocking creature to assign damage to so it does not assign damage (unless it has Trample) per 310.2c
this means if my blocked attacking creature had Lifelink, it doesn't trigger because my creature assigned no damage.
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