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Pro Tour-Honolulu 2009
9 months ago  ::  Jun 04, 2009 - 9:44PM #1
WotC_Greg
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Welcome to Pro Tour-Honolulu, Magic's return to paradise! This Pro Tour features 10 rounds of Shards of Alara Block Constructed and six rounds of Booster Draft, with a Booster Draft Top 8.

The live webcast of Pro Tour-Honolulu will start at 4:45 p.m. ET Sunday, June 7. Watch the Top 8 as Magic crowns its second Pro Tour champion of 2009!

Here's a handy time zone guide to figure out when the webcast starts in your neighborhood:

Honolulu: 10:45 a.m.
Los Angeles: 1:45 p.m.
Chicago: 3:45 p.m.
New York: 4:45 p.m.
Rio de Janeiro: 5:45 p.m.
London: 9:45 p.m.
Berlin: 10:45 p.m.
Moscow: 12:45 a.m. Monday
Tokyo: 5:45 a.m. Monday
Sydney: 6:45 p.m. Monday
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 05, 2009 - 1:49AM #2
Falcon_Uk
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Groan - its going to be a late night here in the UK
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 05, 2009 - 10:18AM #3
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When will the coverage start?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 05, 2009 - 11:39AM #4
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Middle of a weekend day in the summer. I am torn between partially blowing an afternoon and finding out who won before I even get a chance to watch the replays. These choices do seem to be easier to make in the winter
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 05, 2009 - 1:55PM #5
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Is there any way you can make the yfrog picture links in the twitter box clickable so we don't have to enter the URLs by hand to see the pictures?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 05, 2009 - 4:08PM #6
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Someone should let Rich Hagon know that his podcast is just replaying his PT Kyoto wrap up with no new info on PT Honolulu....
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 05, 2009 - 5:37PM #7
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round 5 has finished and they've only just put up the feature match coverage for round 2?
Really? :/
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 05, 2009 - 7:59PM #8
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The draft viewer is having an error with Conflux: Every single card won't display, while Shards and Reborn are fine (except in Shards, with a non-existent card Kathari Creeper - which I think is supposed to be Kederkt Creeper).
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 7:38AM #9
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Good to see that BDM and specially Randy are actually playing magic now (not in the PT, but otherwise). Their comments are more pertinent and worthy. Good job, guys!
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 8:26AM #10
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Booster draft in the top 8? How disappointing.

10 rounds of exciting constructed and then webcast the drafted decks?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 3:46PM #11
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I love u guys, but this is horrible.

What a coverage. Amazingly slow. They are playing round eleven and we cant even read a match from round 9.

Take a look at Pro Tour New Orleans. Thats how things should be made. 2 match coverage for each round. Thats what we want to read. We do not need twitter, or video tech of a draft deck.

Why is the coverage getting worse pro tour after pro tour ??
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 4:00PM #12
nwonder
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I have to agree that the coverage seems sub-par this time around. I am sure there is a good reason, but there has to be a better way for those of us who cannot enjoy the island paradise to at least imagine we are there.

I love everything I'm being given so far, I just wish there was more, and I wish it came up faster.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 5:13PM #13
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Whats with the pairings for round 12 and the standings for round 11? Points are all wrong.

Edit...no, standings are right now, but for instance Kibler is down as being on 12 points in the pairings...pretty sure that's muchly wrong
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 6:21PM #14
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JohnStuartMill wrote:

Why is the coverage getting worse pro tour after pro tour ??


Budget cuts.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 6:45PM #15
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Really poor coverage, as stated above.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 7:39PM #16
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I'm confused.

I didn't think it was physically possible for LSV to be this low in the standings. I thought he was auto-bye'd to the top 8 at this point.


The coverage needs some improvements. Twitter sucks worse than a six mana vanilla 0/1. I hate to say it, but it seems as if they're just doing the bare minimum for the site just to say they're doing it and not much else. I mean, really, you have all these people on the floor and you can't pump out two matches per round for the site and then try to take less than four hours to put them up. Its kinda annoying.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 8:08PM #17
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Twitter actually spotlights how bad the real coverage is because it reminds you what point in what round they're actually on.

Budget cuts is not a good excuse (if it's their excuse at all). By the time you add up all the prizes (including Players' Club), facility rental, promotions, all the airfare and accomodations that Wizards provides, and any other expenses, it's easily a half million dollars per PT and probably closer to the full million. To go to all that expense and then make the coverage suck to save the cost of one more reporter would be ridiculous.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 8:16PM #18
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Especially when they could hire one of the many talented freelance Magic writers for a fraction of the cost of the in-house guys and get high-quality coverage for us to enjoy.

I'm sure a good amount of players would do coverage for the airfare, hotel, food, and a case of boosters, much like they pay judges with boxes for running events.

Heck, fly in Evan Erwin and pay him to do some coverage for this weekend!
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 8:53PM #19
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For some reason I'm really excited to see Zac Hill likely qualifying for day 3, just because he is a known name not usually for his performances. Also check out BDM after a late-night booster draft.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 9:07PM #20
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Hooray for the Dragonmaster, what a nice comeback. The top 8 could have been better though, apart from Kibler and Mitamura it isn't that great.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 9:31PM #21
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You get the feeling by seeing this top 8 with Zac Hill and Brian Kibler, along with Patrick Chapin making a decent run in this tournament, StarCity Games must be wetting themselves over the amount of hits and premium subscriptions they might get this week.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 9:32PM #22
The_American_Nightmare
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zyxon wrote:


Best pic ever

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 10:13PM #23
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Conley Woods all the way
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 06, 2009 - 11:34PM #24
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Go Zac! I'll be rooting for you to get your first win. I've always liked the guy and it's great to see him get a second T8 (first was a GP T8 when Coldsnap draft was the format).
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 12:11AM #25
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The_American_Nightmare wrote:

You get the feeling by seeing this top 8 with Zac Hill and Brian Kibler, along with Patrick Chapin making a decent run in this tournament, StarCity Games must be wetting themselves over the amount of hits and premium subscriptions they might get this week.


Indeed, I'm wondering if they'll force Zac to move to Premium.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:14AM #26
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alpanon wrote:

Especially when they could hire one of the many talented freelance Magic writers for a fraction of the cost of the in-house guys and get high-quality coverage for us to enjoy.

I'm sure a good amount of players would do coverage for the airfare, hotel, food, and a case of boosters, much like they pay judges with boxes for running events.

Heck, fly in Evan Erwin and pay him to do some coverage for this weekend!


+1

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:45AM #27
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I just saw the video with Randy and Tom Ross, and I noticed that Randy's shirt seems to have "Pro Tour Staff" written on it. That would seem to imply that Randy or someone else actually put effort into letting him wear it. I don't understand.

Edit: Zac Hill reminds me a bit of the guy that plays Peter Petrelli in Heroes.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 10:25AM #28
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I haven't played Alara block constructed a lot, but people were saying it was totally warped around Bloodbraid elf and Jund after ARB as it was around Naya before. While seeing some hate.dec around (Canonist and Vedalken outlander main) there's seem to be some variety despite the claims of brokeness. Has someone here been testing with block to claim if it is warped or balanced? It's particularly important this time because Alara is the first block with their precious new policy and it would be a blowout if it fails.

I suspect this whole idea of mixing a draft with the constructed format was intended precisely to difficult criticism to the state of the format, so people with lesser decks could have a chance to top8 and / or claim that results can't be translated directly to the health of the format because of the weight of the drafts.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 1:27PM #29
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We are gonna see Kibler draft ?? Are u joking ?? Why not Mitamura`s draft ?? The man is great drafting and he made 6-0 in the tournament not 4-2 like kibler.

Who the hell decided to see kibler´s draft ??

This is the standard coverage decision that ruins things.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 1:44PM #30
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JohnStuartMill wrote:

We are gonna see Kibler draft ?? Are u joking ?? Why not Mitamura`s draft ?? The man is great drafting and he made 6-0 in the tournament not 4-2 like kibler.

Who the hell decided to see kibler´s draft ??

This is the standard coverage decision that ruins things.


That isn't it.

USA! USA! USA!

No "interesting Americans," we would've gotten Mitamura (again, assuming no uberplayer like LSV, Saito, Nakamura, or Nassif

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 1:54PM #31
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How do I watch it with Windows Media Player instead of Quicktime?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 1:58PM #32
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willyb_11 wrote:

How do I watch it with Windows Media Player instead of Quicktime?


I'd also like to know, I'm only getting audio.

Edit: Just had to restart it.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:06PM #33
Sene
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I really don't like that Randy and BDM are talking about which cards the players are going to open before the draft is over. It makes the draft less exciting to watch. Even if they do know, they shouldn't talk about it.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:13PM #34
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Anyone else getting bad picture quality?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:15PM #35
Sene
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I really think Kibler is pretty much screwed. He has to get an awesome Conflux booster, or else I don't see him getting past the quarters.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:16PM #36
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Sene wrote:

I really don't like that Randy and BDM are talking about which cards the players are going to open before the draft is over. It makes the draft less exciting to watch. Even if they do know, they shouldn't talk about it.


They haven't really talked about that many cards in specific to be honest.

They mentioned there being a lot of bombs, but that's about it.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:18PM #37
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Kieblers draft got alot better with conflux, espically with the scepter.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:19PM #38
Sene
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aarongapen wrote:

They haven't really talked about that many cards in specific to be honest.

They mentioned there being a lot of bombs, but that's about it.


Rietzl's Tower Gargoyle, Mitamura's Drumhunter, and that Conley Woods is going to open some terrific packs. Perhaps not a lot, but I don't wanna know yet!

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:21PM #39
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I don't like this guy's chances.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:22PM #40
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teliot wrote:

I don't like this guy's chances.


still a whole pack to go and reborn and change that, but i guess we'll see

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:23PM #41
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Oh yeah. Kibler's deck turned around quite a bit in this pack. It really doesn't appear to be that strong of a deck despite the fact, however.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:27PM #42
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Rietzl's deck is going to be the nuts. In five-game matches, the better deck is much better positioned than in three-game ones. The only question is his mana, I guess.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:28PM #43
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Soniex wrote:

still a whole pack to go and reborn and change that, but i guess we'll see


Actually, that's why I don't like his chances. Esper is good in the first two packs but is probably the weakest shard out of Reborn (it might be grixis).

Although, he's gotten some nice picks like double Wall, so it might turn out okay.

Edit: Who the hell passes Deny Reality for Brainbite...

Edit: Arsenal Thresher over Talon Trooper? Yeah he's screwed.

Edit: Arsenal Thresher over Architects of Will? This can't end well.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:29PM #44
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i so wanted him to take the lich lord there
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:35PM #45
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Soniex wrote:

i so wanted him to take the lich lord there


Me too =[

In regards to his deck though, I am not sure he feels too confident about it. I wouldn't. Not that it is terrible, but it just didn't come together how he wanted. While Esper is clearly the best shard to force, forcing in general is still dangerous(like in this case).

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:42PM #46
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Well, Conflux was certainly sick for him. I really dislike the first Thresher pick (over the Trooper), but it looks fine with the next one; that's probably what he was planning for by taking the Borderpost over Crystallization. But passing Deny Reality? For Brainbite? WTF???

He came in with a plan with Reitzl, a good one as Esper is very good in Conflux...
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 2:54PM #47
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If he has made a money split deal with Rietzl, the draft couldn't have gone much better for him

Edit: So Rietzl doesn't have the nuts?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:12PM #48
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Double Knight of New Alara? How awsome is that, there was once at a PTQ I went to and 2 different people had double Scourglass that was pretty cool.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:15PM #49
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I guess if all the decks are mediocre, it'll come down to who the best player is barring godawful draws.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:16PM #50
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I think Gleam of Resistance can become very relevant against Conley's Hellion and Lavalanches. It'll be interesting to see how Kibler plays those after getting to see the wrath effects in game 1.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:19PM #51
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Randy, BDM....lay out and just let Kibler do his own play-by-play
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:23PM #52
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They SERIOUSLY need to keep the camera on the board.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:27PM #53
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NinjaX wrote:

They SERIOUSLY need to keep the camera on the board.


Eh, I want to know what's in the hands.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:29PM #54
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teliot wrote:

Eh, I want to know what's in the hands.


I think he was referring to the habitual head shots in the middle of gameplay.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:29PM #55
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teliot wrote:

Eh, I want to know what's in the hands.


During the game:

80% of the time on the board
15% of the time at the hands
5% on the players

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:30PM #56
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teliot wrote:

Eh, I want to know what's in the hands.


WTB Picture in picture =) Speaking of picture, mine just got pretty sketchy ><

And as I said before, Kibler's deck just honestly isn't that exciting.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:31PM #57
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Usually someone comes up with a Windows Media Player link or VLC link by now, unfortunately that doesn't seem to have happened yet. I don't understand at all why Wizards uses Quicktime.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:32PM #58
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Jaksiel wrote:

Usually someone comes up with a Windows Media Player link or VLC link by now, unfortunately that doesn't seem to have happened yet. I don't understand at all why Wizards uses Quicktime.


Is it that big of a deal?

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:33PM #59
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Yea anyone know if we can use WMP? Quicktime isn't working very well for me.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:33PM #60
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Enough with the extended shots of the players' faces! It's extremely frustrating to know that the players are putting cards on the board and we don't get to see them because you are too busy showing us the players themselves. This isn't Miss Universe. We don't care what they players look like. Show us the CARDS! There should be faces of Magic cards visible in EVERY SHOT while a game is in progress. If you wanna show the players and make their moms/gfs back home happy, do it while they're shuffling between games - not while a game is under way. Thanks.

- Sol
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:34PM #61
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The directors of these things are always frickin horrible...with their pretentious (and useless) long boom shots.

STAY ON THE BOARD & HANDS!
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:44PM #62
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solmalka wrote:

Enough with the extended shots of the players' faces! It's extremely frustrating to know that the players are putting cards on the board and we don't get to see them because you are too busy showing us the players themselves. This isn't Miss Universe. We don't care what they players look like. Show us the CARDS! There should be faces of Magic cards visible in EVERY SHOT while a game is in progress. If you wanna show the players and make their moms/gfs back home happy, do it while they're shuffling between games - not while a game is under way. Thanks.

- Sol


+100

Why do we always have to look at players faces ?? We only need to see the table and sometimes hands. NOTHING MORE.

What happen with Zac hill quarterfinal ?? They stop in the middle of a turn to allow the cameras to film the match !!! Come on !!! You stop them from playing !!!! This is a joke.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:46PM #63
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Haha, "There's a blue-black token..."

EDIT: I'm watching this on WMP.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:54PM #64
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Guys, a link for WMP is always provided by Wizards
mms://a549.l1897946548.c18979.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/549/18979/v0001/reflector:46548
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:56PM #65
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YoshiOfADown wrote:

Guys, a link for WMP is always provided by Wizards
mms://a549.l1897946548.c18979.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/549/18979/v0001/reflector:46548


Where do they provide it at...I just couldn't seem to find it.

Edit: Thanks Yoshi

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 3:58PM #66
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I don't blame you for missing it.

EDIT: Scroll down under "Video Stream" to Problems. Click number 3 ("try other video streams"). Then you'll see the WMP link.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 4:12PM #67
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So apparently I am not allowed to "watch it now!". Whenever I click it, it fails to load.

ooh its working
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 4:19PM #68
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Apparently the coverage team isn't "getting it" even though a lot of people are echoing my sentiment (or I am echoing theirs) on the message boards. We're still seeing quick cuts to the player's face (and then a lingering shot of it) as he taps a bunch of mana and commits a card to the board. These coverage guys must be the children of the people responsible for the Heidi Game.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 4:28PM #69
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Brainbite to save the team!
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 4:30PM #70
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I know he's not Aussie but...

Conley, Conley, Connley! Oi,Oi,Oi!
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 4:36PM #71
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Is the lich lord gone, Zac he could just draw that and mill him out
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 4:51PM #72
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Love the commentators talking about martial coup, whether or not you can regen., when it doesn't even kill the token that could regen.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 4:57PM #73
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H0llaathim11 wrote:

Love the commentators talking about martial coup, whether or not you can regen., when it doesn't even kill the token that could regen.


The player was asking if it had a similar wording to WoG, you know the no regenerate bit. They were talking about it and how it doesnt, and also how it isnt even in the deck. That is because the player was wondering if he should pump his thoctar. Pay attention to the players.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 5:10PM #74
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billybob8356 wrote:

The player was asking if it had a similar wording to WoG, you know the no regenerate bit. They were talking about it and how it doesnt, and also how it isnt even in the deck. That is because the player was wondering if he should pump his thoctar. Pay attention to the players.


I know what the players did, Rietzel was wondering what could destroy him there, but for the commentators to not even recognize that coup is nontoken, they chime right in saying "he doesn't have it anyway" as opposed to "martial coup can't kill tokens so he won't have to worry about using the mana to pump". Just goes to show that these two STILL aren't familiar with the cards, even those in the most recent block.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 5:13PM #75
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You're an idiot. Read Martial Coup.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 5:16PM #76
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Is the stream stuck for everbody atm?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 5:24PM #77
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It's fixed.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 6:10PM #78
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solmalka wrote:

Enough with the extended shots of the players' faces! It's extremely frustrating to know that the players are putting cards on the board and we don't get to see them because you are too busy showing us the players themselves. This isn't Miss Universe. We don't care what they players look like. Show us the CARDS!

- Sol


Agreed 100%, this has been an annoying problem for a long time.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 6:19PM #79
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This has become unwatchable!
The long boom shots and the shots of the players causes one to lose the thread of the game.

The fact that the announcers don't always seem to know what's happening makes things even worse.

I'm done with this amateur hour web-cast.

What a joke!
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 6:20PM #80
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Unbelievable. We just missed the deciding play and conclusion of Rietzl/Mitamura Game 1 because the camera was trained on Rietzl instead of the board. These camera guys must be contractors who've never played a single game of Magic or anything else involving cards.

For those who missed it, Mitamura won with Vengeful Rebirth clearing the path for his team. I think.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 6:23PM #81
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I haven't been able to get in at all, but it sounds like I am not missing that much. They really do need to rethink how they cover these games. It sounds like we are still dealing with the same issues as always, and if this is really booster dreaft then I'll just wait for the replays.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 6:27PM #82
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The only other card that starts with the word is the card Deadshot itself which is from tempest.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 6:33PM #83
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Is there an email that we can spam to complain?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 6:52PM #84
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sound would be nice...
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 6:52PM #85
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Woods got ridiculous bombs
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 6:55PM #86
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Fleshformer is only on your own turn
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 6:56PM #87
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How's the player of the year race shaping up? And big shake-ups in Hawaii?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 7:13PM #88
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What? Why didn't Hebky attack into the 6/4 when he has 3 creatures with exalted? That seemed terrible! I think he might have lost the game there...

Edit: He didn't, but he might have. A very exciting game, by the way!
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 7:17PM #89
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What's with the phallic logo on the stage floor and in the bar (the art is nice btw)? Is that a new Championships logo or summin?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 7:23PM #90
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Nooo not a mull to 5. Go Conley!
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 7:27PM #91
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Somehow it all went to hell for him after being 2-0
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 7:28PM #92
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Wow, how did that happen?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 7:28PM #93
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Oh my god, I can't believe Hebky won that match! Conley was quite unlucky, no doubt about it.

Looking forward to the finals. I think Mitamura deserves to win this.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 7:30PM #94
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Stellar Coverage Team,

I have a couple of questions to fill some air:

1) What kinds of things will there be for me to do if I decide to take the trip to US Nats (I'm not qualified)?

2) Did you foresee no US players in this final when you saw the top 8?

3) Do you have any advice for Mac users who want to play MTGO?

4) Lakers or Magic?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 7:31PM #95
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Hebly is a stacker. Bant Charm & Crystalization 3 games in a row so early?

I'm calling SHENANIGANS!!!

EDIT: Mitamura or Bust
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 7:44PM #96
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Only 4 decks with Bloodbraids, right? Tom Ross left them out for Ranger of Eos.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:02PM #97
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Did I miss something?

How did the Gorger Wurm kill the Deft Duelist and Naya Hushblade?

Or was that not a Duelist.

EDIT: DURH! I was thinking Bant Sureblade, not Naya Hushblade. Hushblade has shroud. Nevermind me.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:11PM #98
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They spend like 30% of the shots on the board. Just great.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:11PM #99
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he tapped wrong for the bloodbraid. He could have threatened the pump with the naya battlemage. Didn't matter though.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:21PM #100
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idk why he bant charmed the battlemage. He could have saved it for the larger threats like Jungle Weaver. He was still staying at 10 from the obelisk
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:24PM #101
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Hebky may have started attacking just now because he now has a hindering light to counter a sudden vengeful rebirth.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:31PM #102
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That was a cute bluff, and it was blatantly obvious that he was bluffing. But you HAVE to bluff there. If Hebky was Kibler or Chapin, he would have called him on the bluff.

Good play by both guys.

MORE MTG!

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P.S. "magicprotour(BDM) About 3 minutes away from Semifinal action. Rietzl and Woods favored to meet in Finals."
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:41PM #103
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Mitamura's bluff is irrelevent for hebky cause of the hindering light in hand. har har soo much discussion for something hebky probably barely considered.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:45PM #104
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Spike only takes half the life with combat dmg.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:46PM #105
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Guest831299729 wrote:

Spike only takes half the life with combat dmg.


Sure, but deathtouch means Stinger taps to destroy target creature. Seems allright to me.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:48PM #106
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Guest831299729 wrote:

Spike only takes half the life with combat dmg.


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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:50PM #107
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Can someone explain how the Waveskimmer was saved by resounding wave? Wouldn't Crystallization trigger from the wave also?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:53PM #108
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  • Mr. "I Have A Confirm FoS"

StarDotStar wrote:

Can someone explain how the Waveskimmer was saved by resounding wave? Wouldn't Crystallization trigger from the wave also?


Sangrite backlash was the card.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:53PM #109
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Yeah, there's my RG deck! You beat that UW!
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:57PM #110
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And...3 minutes to midnight here in the East...PT CHAMPION KAZUYA MITAMURA!!!
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:58PM #111
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I'm happy for Mitamura. I played him in Hollywood last year and he was a very pleasant opponent.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 8:58PM #112
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Pretty good match. Grats Mitamura!
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 9:05PM #113
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Hehe, Mitamura is overflowing with emotion... I can't blame him. Congrats!
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 9:06PM #114
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Sene wrote:

Hehe, Mitamura is overflowing with emotion... I can't blame him. Congrats!


Yea totally. Going 2-0, and still had to go to game 5. It's never easy.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 9:57PM #115
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Will the finals get posted as a video?

I missed games 4 & 5

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 07, 2009 - 10:21PM #116
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Congrats to Mitamura and thanks to the Coverage team !
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 08, 2009 - 1:59AM #117
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Am I the only person who cringes when I see Scott Johns playing people in the employee area? I mean, does he cheat against those people like he cheated on the Pro Tour?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 08, 2009 - 2:38AM #118
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solmalka wrote:

Enough with the extended shots of the players' faces! It's extremely frustrating to know that the players are putting cards on the board and we don't get to see them because you are too busy showing us the players themselves. This isn't Miss Universe. We don't care what they players look like. Show us the CARDS! There should be faces of Magic cards visible in EVERY SHOT while a game is in progress. If you wanna show the players and make their moms/gfs back home happy, do it while they're shuffling between games - not while a game is under way. Thanks.

- Sol


I'm so glad I didn't bother to watch. It started at 9.45pm here, so I would have stayed up late to see it. And if I had been looking at the players for more than half the time I would have been seriously P'd off, LOL.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 08, 2009 - 3:18AM #119
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Congrats to Mitamura!

I feel sorry for Hebky though. That last game would have been very different if he'd drawn a green source (7 in his deck!).

I was still rooting for Mitamura, but at least it would have been a fair fight.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 08, 2009 - 9:07AM #120
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Any idea when the videos will be posted? Only had time to catch a few minutes of the draft.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 08, 2009 - 10:14AM #121
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Cheers WOTC, great coverage as always.

One request, tho: would it be possible in future to not spoiler the winner of the event to those of us who don't can't watch the coverage live? It's often in the middle of the night, and I don't always want to stay up that late, but if I go to the tournament centre the following day, there's no way I can avoid the blaring banner headline telling me who won. I know you want to report that news, but is there no way that I can get to the footage without having the end spoilered? Perhaps there's some backdoor already that I just haven't found...?
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 08, 2009 - 12:50PM #122
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drippinglight wrote:

Any idea when the videos will be posted? Only had time to catch a few minutes of the draft.


They're up as zipped WMVs on the right-side of the coverage page.

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9 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2009 - 5:31PM #123
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Great Coverage ??? Sarcasm ??

WTF !! Look at the coverage of Worlds 2001.... yes, 8 years ago !! That was an AMAZING COVERAGE. Not this one.
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9 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2009 - 6:41AM #124
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Kibler cracked his Kaleidostone to be able to play Arsenal Thresher, and revealed Esperzoa, Executioner's Capsule, and Sludge Strider. He took a point of mana burn


This raised my eyebrow watching the live cast, and I still don't get it: why did Kibler take a mana burn and not simply play his Capsule instead?

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