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1 year ago ::
Mar 19, 2009 - 11:53AM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Announcement, which goes live Friday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 19, 2009 - 3:46PM
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Interesting... no name to give it away. I wonder what it could be.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 19, 2009 - 7:47PM
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Interesting... no name to give it away. I wonder what it could be. Announcement of the March bannings and restrictions.
"There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't"
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1 year ago ::
Mar 20, 2009 - 6:57AM
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On Gatherer, I see that Sensei's Divining Top is banned. It's not on this list. When did this happen? When does it take effect?
Melvins ruin Magic everyday. The Truth about "New Extended"
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It's pretty obvious that the "new format" to replace a mortally wounded Legacy is New Extended. Extended is dying from half-assed support and decreasing availability of boosters that sold out six or seven years ago, and nobody's buying those boosters that just rotated out of standard. Legacy is dying from half-assed support and decreasing availability of staples they haven't printed for sixteen years, and refuse print again.
Thus, the solution is to cut Extended off of boosters that people actually bought back then, but can't easily find now (Darksteel, Ravnica), while remnant packs of LorSha block sit around various card-shops, completely unsalable. Then, announce an Extended Night once a month or once every other month, let Legacy die its inevitable lingering death, and suddenly Little Billy reconsiders those dusty packs that everyone says "aren't legal anymore" - while at the same time the Jaded Old Farts are forced to take those sets seriously that they previously dismissed as 'weaksauce', if they want to play at all.
New Extended, Dying Legacy, and Siberia in between 'breaks' the public of any crazy ideas of longevity, and moves stagnant boosters everyone otherwise would have immediately quit buying after 15-24 months, and hastens the death of Legacy by flooding it full of 'new' players fighting for a decreasingly available and increasingly overpriced pool of duals and other ancient staples. It's a perfect solution, really - that is except for established Magic Players. Those guys get screwed.
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As far as tournaments go, I think netdecking is just part of the environment. There's just no reasonable way to remove it. Do I netdeck? Most of my constructed playing is at events and I seldom build those decks so maybe I'm netdecking, I honestly don't know.
If you wish to continue to use bad cards, that is your decision and we cannot stop you. However, insisting a card is "good because I like it", in the face of evidence explicitly illustrating why that card is just plain bad, then you are just outright delusional.
Most things are possible in Magic, although not all are worth doing.
If you want to be a hero for winning with Gray Ogre that's fine, but the truth is, if the Ogre never existed, there would be no loss. There would not be a bunch of people walking around saying, "I wish there was a worse card out there so I could spend most of my games sucking."
These procedures can be found in the Magic Tournament Rules, because this only impacts tournament play. If you are still implying seperate universes for kitchen-table play, I cannot help you.
Remember, I am talking about real games of Magic. You are talking in terms of a corner of corner cases where even well-documented corner cases go to cry.
If Wizards tried to aggressively reprint Legacy staples, I bet that less than 2% of their old "customer base" would return. Those people just have other things to do with their life now. There's not a massive fanbase of players waiting around, killing time playing WoW and CoD, saying "As soon as they start reprinting FoW and bring back Damage on the Stack, I am all over that."
You don't win tournaments by playing your copy of Fantastic Four #1.
I try to explain it:
So let's start with a regular card and pretend(i guess it's actually the case but I don't know) they are composed of two layers of cardboard: ------------------------------------ face ------------------------------------ back
now i expand the card board, both layers expand at the same rate: ----------------------------------------------- face ----------------------------------------------- back
So now let's move to foils and pretend they are composed of one layer of card board and a layer with shinystuff on it: ------------------------------------- face(foil) ------------------------------------- back(regular card board)
now we add moisture and say the shiny side will extend less since it absorbs less moisture: ------------------------------------------ face ----------------------------------------------- back
since the edges are firmly attached to another, the card will bend towards the face side(hard to do with symbols on a regular keyboard, just imagine )
Taking a page from JTI, you can insert "Craw Wurm" for "Planeswalker" and still have pretty much the same statement.
So in this light, Leaden Fists is a bad card because it's not obvious. You have to figure out how to use it. Eldrazi Conscription is just so much better as auras go. The only thing that would improve Eldrazi Conscription is if it said "target a creature you control" and "you must attack until your opponent is at 0 life and then you win the game, unless this is multiplayer in which case you have to do it again to the next person" actually on the card. Otherwise I'm afraid that part might not be sufficiently clear.
That's a good opening move Wizards, but I trust as soon as it sinks in the plan will continue.
A) Extended -> 4 years
B) Standard -> 1 year
C) Block Constructed will now be "12 pack sealed"
D) Drafts use 4 packs
E) The rumors become almost true with the announcement of a new format. Obviously players want a classic format but they also want reprints. So the only allowed cards are those that were originally in MM and beyond and then were reprinted in a special promotional set (FTV, Duel Deck, Planechase, etc) within the last 2 years. Originals not allowed
E) To quell concerns that the format might be inherently racist, socialist, terrorist, and homophobic, Legacy is outlawed just to be safe.
F) Extended -> 2 years
G) Core sets will be printed with decimals starting with M14.25. Standard now extends back 6 months and rotates every 3.
H) Magic Online, expanding on the long-standing benefit of managing your collection for you, will delete any cards from your collection as soon as the Limited event ends. This will end any need for the collection server, which will at this point be "about 3 years from completion" anyway.
I) The Serious Fun column will alternate between two themes: how much fun multiplayer Packwars is, and fun ways to set your cards on fire.
J) Extended -> 1 year
H) Drafting and Sealed deck merge into a format where you open 30 packs, take 1 card from each, and throw the rest away. This will now be the only official format of the Pro Tour.
Wizards, I continue to salute you and your brave innovation toward increasing revenue without delivering more value. I can't wait to see what you come up with next.
Playing a bad deck in order to be original is like using crappy tools to build something. Not only does it look bad in the end, but nobody really thinks that you're cool for being unwilling to do things the way a professional would.
True, Im sure if apple released a Cyanide Laced apple juice or "ibeverage"(copy right protected) the world would probably end in a mass suicide. Meanwhile the few of us that are left will be complaining about the price of Jace the Mind Sculptor.
When I look at a card from more than ten years ago, I want to read it and know what it does. I do not want to have to whip out my laptop or my smart phone and verify what MaGo thinks it is supposed to do this week.
Logic Explanation of why we are playing teh PokemanzSpoiler:
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from a logical standpoint, there is something to be said about the nature of man in all of this.
1. the game is at its height of popularity right now. 2. the game has less elements of control than it has had in the past. 3. the game has stronger creatures overall than it has had in the past 4. it follows from premises 1, 2, and 3 that the game is more popular right now because the game has less elements of control and stronger creatures overall than it has had in the past. 5. the aggro archetype is stronger right now as a direct result of premise 3. 6. the control archetype is weaker as a direct result of premise 2. 7. let us presuppose that aggro involves less complex thought for its success. 8. it follows from premises 5 and 7 that the stronger aggro is, the less complex the thought put into it play is. 9. let us presuppose that control involves more complex thought for its success. 10. it follows from premises 6 and 9 that control is weaker and thus requires more complex thought for its success right now. 11. lets presuppose that, overall, the aggro archetype is winning more than the control archetype. 12. aggro is winning more than control right now. 13. therefore, aggro requires less complex thought right now than it has in the past and as a direct result enables the game to be at its most popular level.
anyways, i feel that it logical follows that aggro is strong right now, causing the game to be more popular, thus more people enjoy using less complex thought when playing this game than those of the control persuasion.
in other words, more people don't want to think about this game than those that do
which means more terrible blue and control cards.
so if you feel insulted by this logic.... well thats not my burden
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1 year ago ::
Mar 20, 2009 - 7:02AM
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On Gatherer, I see that Sensei's Divining Top is banned. It's not on this list. When did this happen?
When does it take effect? Sensei's Divining Top was banned in Extended in September 2008.
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/A … s/09012008
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1 year ago ::
Mar 20, 2009 - 11:30AM
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I demand Block Party!
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