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4 years ago ::
Mar 09, 2009 - 3:11PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Serious Fun, which goes live Tuesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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4 years ago ::
Mar 09, 2009 - 9:34PM
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this article is beautiful. also kelly digges looks like justin timberlake. Sure, winning is fun. Strategy helps you win. Great! But if it isn't fun, Timmy says, don't do it. Magic's not a job. Your deck list isn't a term paper. Magic is fun, and if you're not having fun, you really are doing it wrong.
emphasis mine. people insist on misunderstanding this, from both ends. but it's nice to hear it from a timmy biased source. 
i think i have just enough spike in me to be interested in optimizing to get my decks working as effectively as possible...but those decks aren't decks spike would play.
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4 years ago ::
Mar 09, 2009 - 9:36PM
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Date Joined:
May 18, 2002
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Wait a minute... is this Timmy Week?
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4 years ago ::
Mar 09, 2009 - 10:04PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 28, 2004
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it's funny, i'd completely forgotten about the different types of timmies from that column. looking at them again, i'm pretty well-rounded for a timmy (with a good bit of johnny involved, at that). Power gaming is the best kind of gaming, i have several decks dedicated to the big, smashy and stupid things one can do. In the first timmy, johnny and spike article Rosewater describes timmy as he opens his first verdant force  , that's almost exactly how I reacted to the one I opened in a tempest pack. it was a 7/7 that grew his own personal army, i had found heaven. Social gaming is my favorite type of gaming. my local gaming store closed down in winter of 2007 i think, no warning, just one weekend they were closing, after that they were gone. I actually cried a little when i found out, it just wasn't Magic without all the people and the environment of all these gamers together. I played with a friend on campus after a little while, but it wasn't the same until i found a new store to play at. Diversity isn't exactly my favorite way to game, but I do find it very hard to play the same deck twice, and love building and writing up lists for new ones. i've also been lured by the siren call of EDH recently. And adrenaline gaming? "This is a bad hand. I'm keeping," is like my mantra. I have a 20-land deck that has no curve, stuttering around three and four with the meat of it being 6 and over, topping off at Iname as one  . it's horribly awesome. I have two mono-red decks that basically need to draw the seething song  and mana flare  or gauntlet of power  to function. there's nothing like winning because you top-decked the third land, allowing you to seething song out the gauntlet that lets you play your dragons and hellions and orggs.
This is the happy swamp. Love it. I am red/blue, I think logically and act impulsively.
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4 years ago ::
Mar 09, 2009 - 10:17PM
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I'm a Spike, but I really have to make some timmy decks at some point and just have fun with the game a bit more. Time to make that Krosan Cloudscraper deck and actually cast it.
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4 years ago ::
Mar 09, 2009 - 10:24PM
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Jan 20, 2009
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As an ardent Timmy... This article is perfect. My favorite decks include a ridiculous Oni deck, a fantastically fun Simic deck, a rather generic but fun to play white-black deck, a Ghost Orzhov deck, a giant (Not the Battle of Wits kind) deck, and a hilariously brutal in multiplayer Guile  / Dovescape  deck. My favorite decks to play against are my friend's Ninja deck, my friend's land destruction/Magnivore deck, and my friend's simic "beatstick deck", which involves pumping creatures absurdly with Loxodon Warhammer  and Moldervine Cloak  . What's the part I enjoy the most? Playing against my best friend, of course!
I'm a Spike, but I really have to make some timmy decks at some point and just have fun with the game a bit more. Time to make that Krosan Cloudscraper deck and actually cast it.
Do you have fun playing the game itself (As in having fun even when you lose)? If you do, you're already a Timmy!
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4 years ago ::
Mar 09, 2009 - 10:27PM
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I'm a fairly well rounded player but my Timmy and Johnny do usually overwhelm my inner Spike.
I liked this article but I must say I can't wait until Johnny week. COMBOS!
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4 years ago ::
Mar 09, 2009 - 10:35PM
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Look at all these Timmies. Playing their creatures, playing their bombs, having *scoff* fun. But don't worry. Eventually they'll learn. Eventually they'll know better. Magic isn't a game, it's an occupation. It's a full-time job where your only paycheck is the Pro Tour. So go back to your silly little card game and leave the real playing for... hey, is that a Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker  ? Awesome, you're facing down a Progenitus  ?! Wow, that looks like so much... fun! Rock on, Timmies!
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4 years ago ::
Mar 09, 2009 - 10:51PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 14, 2006
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You want a Timmy? You got a Timmy right here. You can look at the decks I carry around with me when I go out to play Magic if you don't believe me. I guess I might say the ultimate expression of my Timmy-ness is what I did with my elf deck. At one point I had a full set of Wren's Run Vanquisher  s and a triplet of Overrun  s, and the deck was consistent and aggressive and won all the time. But then I re-evaluated my strategy and realized that the best part about the elf deck was not the turn 5 wins that came from being the aggro, but the turn 10 wins that came from the critical mass of tokens from Wren's Run Packmaster  or Lys Alana Huntmaster  or Elvish Promenade  . All of my favorite elf cards were left on the sidelines as "win-more" and couldn't do their job, because they didn't get to the battlefield until after the war was over. So I took out the Overrun s because they made me win too quick. Timmy FTW!  A friend of mine showed me an elf deck he built, asserting that Llanowar Elves  was the essential one-mana elf. I basically just looked at him funny, because I really couldn't see how the Lawnmower could beat out powerhouses like Essence Warden  and Rhys the Redeemed  . To me, the massive, must-answer, life-gaining, token-making machines are just impossible to top. (Maybe Wirewood Symbiote  . Or Skullclamp  , in moderation.) And this other deck I've been playing is a green-white concoction I put together out of a bunch of my favorite cards, because there were a few in particular that I was dying to see in play. Not Loxodon Hierarch  , not Glare of Subdual  (although I did have both of those). Juniper Order Ranger  . And not with Kitchen Finks  either; no, that would be too cliché. No, Pollenbright Wings  . That's right, my main incentive to go green-white was not Glare or Hierarch or Finks, but Pollenbright Wings . And I have a great story about that combo too. I was playing this three-player game and my brother played his Daru Spiritualist  / Starlit Sanctum  / Shuko  infinite life combo, sacrificing his Spiritualist, and he made the mistake of choosing, as his arbitrarily large number, 3.6 billion life. And I happened to have my Ranger with a pair of Wings in my hand. So with a little math, I deduced that despite his life total being just shy of 2^32, I could still kill him in less than 12 turns. And since the third player was a blue mage with a hand full of permission, there wasn't really anything he could do about it. Ooh man did that feel good.  Everyone else left before I could actually play the thing out though. I guess the math scared them all off. 
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4 years ago ::
Mar 09, 2009 - 10:56PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 27, 2005
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I must disagree slightly. While it's true that timmy =/= inexperienced etc. I do think that most players start as Timmies.
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Your human antics and desire to continue living have moved me. Just kidding. You cannot move me physically or emotionally. Wall humor.
Copy effects work like a photocopy machine: you get a copy of the 'naked' card, NOT of what's on it.
Funny story:
InQuest Magazine (I think it was InQuest) had an oversized Chaos Orb which I totally rooked someone into allowing into a (non-sanctioned) game.
I had a proxy card that was a Mountain with "Chaos Orb" written on it. When I played it, my opponent cried foul:
Him: "WTF? a Proxy? no-one said anything about Proxies. Do you even own an actual Chaos Orb?"
Me: "Yes, but I thought it would be better to use a Proxy."
Him: "No way. If you're going to put a Chaos Orb in your deck you have to use your actual Chaos Orb."
Me: "*Sigh*. Okay."
I pulled out this huge Chaos Orb and placed it on the table. He tried to cry foul again but everyone else said he insisted I use my actual Chaos Orb and that was my actual Chaos Orb. I used it, flipped it and wiped most of his board.
Unsurprisingly, that only worked once and only because everyone present thought it was hilarious. 
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no, see i can kill defenders, but 8 consecutive crits on a battlemind, eh walk it off.
Hi guys! So, I'm a sort of returning player to Magic. I say sort of because as a child I had two main TCG's I liked. Yu-Gi-Oh, and Pokemon. Some of my friends branched off in to Magic, and I bought two pre-made decks just to kind of fit in. Like I said, Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon were what I really knew how to play. I have a extensive knowledge of deck building in those two TCG's. However, as far as Magic is concerned, I only ever used those two pre made decks. I know how the game is played, and I know general things, but now I want to get in the game for real. I want to begin playing it as a regular. My question is, are all cards ever released from the time of the inception of this game until present day fair game in a deck? Or are there special rules? Are some cards forbidden or restricted? Thanks guys, and I will gladly accept ANY help lol.
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See, this is why RPJesus should be in charge of the storyline. The novel line would never have been cancelled if he had been running the show. Specifically the Slobad and Geth's Head talkshow he just described.
Not only was that an obligatory joke, it was an on-topic post that still managed to be off-topic due to thread derailment. RP Jesus does it again folks.
I think I'm gonna' start praying to Jesus... That's right, RPJesus, I'm gonna' be praying to you, right now.
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Please continue to make my time here on the forums fun and cause me to chuckle.
Amen.
It was wonderful. Us Johnnies had a field day. That Timmy with the Grizzly bears  would actually have to think about swinging into your Mogg Fanatic  , giving you time to set up your silly  combo  . Nowadays it's all DERPSWING! with thier blue jeans and their MP3 players and their EM EM OH AR PEE JEES and their "Dewmocracy" and their children's card games and their Jersey Shores and their Tattooed Tenaged Vampire Hunters from Beverly Hills 
Seriously, that was amazing. I laughed my *ss off. Made my day, and I just woke up.
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you loads