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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 4:22PM
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Welcome to Pro Tour-Kyoto, the start of the 2009 Pro Tour season. The live webcast of Pro Tour-Kyoto will start at 8:45 p.m. ET Saturday, February 28 (that's 10:45 a.m. Sunday in Japan). Watch Sunday's Top 8 as Magic crowns its first Pro Tour champion of 2009! Here's a handy time zone guide to figure out when the webcast starts in your neighborhood: Los Angeles: 5:45 p.m Saturday Chicago: 7:45 p.m. Saturday New York: 8:45 p.m. Saturday Rio de Janeiro: 10:45 p.m. Saturday London: 1:45 a.m. Sunday Berlin: 2:45 a.m. Sunday Moscow: 4:45 a.m. Sunday Tokyo: 10:45 a.m. Sunday Sydney: 12:45 p.m. Sunday
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 6:01PM
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Am I imagining things, or was Randy Buehler supposed to be done after Worlds?
Also, does anyone know the name of the guy playing his first Constructed ever? Poor job not to mention his name.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 6:02PM
#3
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Why isn't Randy Buehler playing? 
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 6:37PM
#4
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I believe i am 1 of many people that never got to randy Buehler in action and would really like to see him top 8 an event so that i can see him play.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 6:44PM
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Chapin and Cheon? any reasons why they didnt made the trip?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 6:56PM
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Chapin and Cheon? any reasons why they didnt made the trip?
I can't speak about Cheon, but from what I read from LSV's articles and I think a little bit from Worlds coverage said something about Worlds being Cheon's last tournament for a while. I guess its real life stuff (maybe school?).
For Chapin:
To Whom It May Concern,
Thank you all for your support. I regretfully must report that I will be unable to participate in Pro Tour Kyoto, as I was denied by Immigration upon attempting to enter the country. I am technically allowed to enter the country, however Japanese law grants discretionary power to immigration officers and due to an incident from my past, an immigration officer decided to deny my entry.
I am in no legal trouble and have done nothing wrong in this regard, however, I will not be able to enter Japan until I get a special type of Visa that will take me a couple months to obtain.
I am truly saddened by this turn of events and only wish I had known the situation prior to this trip. I had been advised by an authority that I would have no problems, but it turns out they were mistaken. I will take it upon myself to do all the necessary research myself in the future so that this never happens again.
Again, thank you to everyone who offered support while I was addressing this issue and for the enormous amount of positive energy from everyone. I have dedicated most of the last 2 months of my life to mastering this format and am deeply saddened that I will not get to compete against the best in the world in this format, however I will be cheering for everyone, especially ManuelB, Heezy, Nassif, Oli, Wafo, Parke, Antoine, and MJ every step of the way.
Good Lucks Guys! Win one for the Gipper!
I will be attending GP Chicago and plan on attending all PTs and Constructed Grand Prix this year, including all international events. This was a pretty bad beat, but I have bounced back from worse. See you guys Monday!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 7:23PM
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Randy can't play because his wife still works for WoTC.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 7:27PM
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yeah so, what difference does that make?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 7:29PM
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I can't speak about Cheon, but from what I read from LSV's articles and I think a little bit from Worlds coverage said something about Worlds being Cheon's last tournament for a while. I guess its real life stuff (maybe school?).
Cheon took a job on that island off the coast of Venezuela that Magic players sometimes do
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 7:31PM
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Cheon took a job on that island off the coast of Venezuela that Magic players sometimes do
lol
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 7:42PM
#11
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yeah so, what difference does that make?
The difference is that WoTC says he can't play on the Pro Tour as long as his wife works for them.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 7:58PM
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Joseph Lee is going to win. Then he is going to play some magic.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 7:59PM
#13
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Joseph Lee is not going to play magic? IS he is going to win magic.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 8:23PM
#14
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Riddick, quit posting on the pt kyoto message boards.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 8:23PM
#15
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Joseph Lee is the Cinderella story of PT Kyoto. It'll be like when U of A won the championship beating 3 number 1 seeds.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 8:25PM
#16
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Joseph Lee is the Cinderella of PT Kyoto. He will steal everyones shoes and see if they fit.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 8:26PM
#17
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U of A was not even a Cinderella, man. They were an underdog. George Mason was a Cinderella.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 8:30PM
#18
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If Jared Sandler wins the PTQ in Vegas... that would be a Cinderella, an Underdog, Miracle and he would be the 101st Dalmatian. To use lots of Disney movie titles for describing what he would be.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 8:42PM
#19
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Joseph Lee promised us all blizzards from dq if he won 3 rounds in the PT with extra stuff
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 8:44PM
#20
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If Joseph Lee was a basketball team he would be the Orlando Magic, the underrated good team/player. Jesus says to take it to the HOLE!!!!!!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 8:48PM
#21
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Who is Joseph Lee?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 9:23PM
#22
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in a way joseph lee is all of us
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 9:29PM
#23
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Joseph Lee is you, me, my dog, your sibling. Joseph Lee is all of us.
What movie is that from? seriously.
No wait, I got it. That was V for Vendetta. Natalie Portman and Hugo Weaving. Cannot go wrong. She is a very beautiful woman, just like that Joseph Lee guy...
That guy.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 9:30PM
#24
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I think Joseph Lee is more like the Bulls. Athleticism.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 9:38PM
#25
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Joseph Lee should change his name to Tyrus Thomas because out of all the bulls athleticism, TT is the heart of it.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 27, 2009 - 4:01AM
#26
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Stop the mindless trolling, sock puppets.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 27, 2009 - 6:13AM
#27
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The difference is that WoTC says he can't play on the Pro Tour as long as his wife works for them.
yeah that's dumb, i think this is an attempt to keep buehler working for WOTC and btw wotc doesn't determine whether or not u can play on the PT thedci does.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 27, 2009 - 12:42PM
#28
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Wow, nice job av. You are so cool. Almost Joseph Lee cool.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 27, 2009 - 12:45PM
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LSV undefeated after day one. The guy is an unstoppable machine. He's like a card-playing terminator.
The CARDINATOR.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 27, 2009 - 2:07PM
#30
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What happened to the awesome live webcasts of these pro events? Is anyone else as disappointed in the blogs/wrapups/podcasts as I am? I mean, they're obviously trying very hard, but I'm trying to entertain myself with this stuff, not inform myself, if you know what I mean.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 27, 2009 - 2:16PM
#31
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What happened to the awesome live webcasts of these pro events? Is anyone else as disappointed in the blogs/wrapups/podcasts as I am? I mean, they're obviously trying very hard, but I'm trying to entertain myself with this stuff, not inform myself, if you know what I mean.
You get a live webcast of the top 8 tomorrow night.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 1:57AM
#32
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GO Louis! You're my hero!!
Edit: How does the Magic rankings go? A website would be cool. From what I gather, LSV placed number 11? How does that happen with no losses? I HAVE to be missing something. Please explain. Luv you guys.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 2:02AM
#33
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The use of Twitter really illustrates how much lag this is in updating the site. Just now it says they are a couple minutes from announcing the top 8, which means round 14 is almost done. Yet the latest info on the page is the round 13 pairings.
Not that it's a big deal. But it does take some of the shine off of live blogging to realize that.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 4:43AM
#34
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Hopefully Nassif wins.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 5:15AM
#35
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Give us some decklists!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 4:47PM
#36
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The link to the final standings after Round 14 is broken. It produces the standings after the first round instead. It's been broken for almost 24 hours.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 5:13PM
#37
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Well, dang. Not only did I not start Nassif in our fantasy MTG league, one of my friends started LSV. I believe I just got pwned.
On the other side of the spectrum, what's Martin Juza's worst PT finish as a professional player? It seems like all he puts up are top 16s or top 32s.
I guess I'm not allowed to make somewhat funny jokes about someong in my signature.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 5:28PM
#38
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Haha, as soon as I tuned into the stream I saw someone's desktop for about 5 seconds and then it went to the Pro Tour graphic. Either that's a heck of a coincidence or someone was looking at the user-connections number  EDIT: The card viewer keeps going between Aerie Ouphes and Agony Warp o_o
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 5:48PM
#39
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How do we get the stream to go through Windows Media Player?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 5:53PM
#40
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i have it streaming thru WMP and i just hit the launch stream button....But yeah i am rooting for gab nassif.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:06PM
#41
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Well there's one! Go LSV! I liked the terror play, pretty nifty.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:12PM
#42
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LSV's got this match pretty easily, looks like...
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:20PM
#43
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Shouldn't the Spellstutter be forced to counter the Agony Warp?
EDIT: To explain:
-At the end of LSV's turn, Tanahashi Agony Warps a token
-In resp, LSV Path's the Clique; Spellstutter comes back with Warp still on the stack
-Spellstutter isn't a may ability; the only legal target was Agony Warp, so it should have been countered.
Not that it matters now with LSV having won.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:21PM
#44
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Hmm, when LSV removed Mistbind Clique in response to Agony Warp, shouldn't the Spellstutter Sprite that came back into play have countered the Agony Warp?
Not that it matters....
Edit: Right there with you, IthilanorStPete!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:21PM
#45
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LSV has a bye in match 1, but i still predict gabriel nassif winning this tournament.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:21PM
#46
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End of Game 2:
Tanehashi Agony Warps a token.
Luis plays Path to Exile on Clique.
Could Luis not have played Path in response, bringing the SpellStutter back into play, forcing Tanehashi to counter the Agony Warp?
That would've been even more of a beating
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:23PM
#47
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Randy, the reason LSV played Kitchen Finks before combat (game 2) is to play around Mistbind Clique, which would have been far worse than Cryptic Command at that point.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:23PM
#48
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End of Game 2:
Tanehashi Agony Warps a token.
Luis plays Path to Exile on Clique.
Could Luis not have played Path in response, bringing the SpellStutter back into play, forcing Tanehashi to counter the Agony Warp?
That would've been even more of a beating
isn't spellstutter a may?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:25PM
#49
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isn't spellstutter a may?
No. Spellstutter Sprite
How does playing Finks pre-combat play around Mistbind?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:31PM
#50
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because if mistbind comes into play pre-blockers LSV can't play anything afterwards.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:40PM
#51
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NICE TOP DECK for Nassif
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:40PM
#52
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Ah, thanks.
Nice play by Nassif with the Command-Needle, too bad about the Sculler.
EDIT: Oh, beastly.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:45PM
#53
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yeah, would have been awesome if he bluffed his opponent out tho.
ninja edit: what did max bracht get suspended for?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:50PM
#54
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coverage of Ced's match PLEASSEEEEEEEEEEe
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:52PM
#55
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Nice play combining the Sculler trick with Path.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:54PM
#56
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agreed, extremely nice play, but nassif needs to kill that ajani or play needle.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 6:57PM
#57
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He's got Broodmate in hand...with a Wrath also in hand, at 17 life, he's looking pretty good.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:00PM
#58
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right now he should just let his opponent get 3 creatures onto the board, wrath, then drop a man.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:02PM
#59
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those heights seem really bad right now.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:06PM
#60
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Nassif still seems in good shape...there's plenty of stuff he could draw to win even after Wrath. Cryptic is solid, either Wall or Plumeveil, Cruel U or another Broodmate for the blowout...
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:07PM
#61
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yay for wispmare.
Nassif is on a roll
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:09PM
#62
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Go Nassif! So LSV wins 3-0 Nassif up 2-1 Robinson up 2-0 Ruess up 2-0, did I hear? Lightning edit: I didn't notice Teeg in Robinson's deck, that's pretty awesome. Also, I made predictions ( here) Also also, boo Red Sox.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:11PM
#63
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yeah i think that's right.
I think i smell a chocolate fudgecical thru the smellovision aspect cuz that's a 4/9 doran.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:12PM
#64
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Does anyone have a link to the WMV stream (instead of QT)?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:13PM
#65
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i don't know, cuz i have the WMP stream.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:13PM
#66
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There's a "launch webstream" thing right under the "this requires WMP..." stuff in the dialog.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:15PM
#67
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If only Cedric had a loyal sentry to search up!
EDIT: NM it prolly wouldn't matter :P
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:16PM
#68
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yeah, but that's not good enough for his deck, because if he doesn't have lark in his deck/sideboard it's a bad card for this certain deck.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:16PM
#69
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Looks like Robinson's got this as long as he draws decently. What's LSV's matchup against Robinson like?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:18PM
#70
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Doran means the ranger only deals 3 damage with Anthem in play, so Cedric does need to triple block the Liege. : /
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:18PM
#71
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i think it's about a 60-40 percentile in favor of LSV, just because he storms out of the gates and robinson's deck takes like 2-3 turns to set up and LSV has bitterblossom to force field his life total. that's my perspective at least.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:18PM
#72
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Oh, that makes sense.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:20PM
#73
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but LSV could have that bad karma floating around him from all the matches he's won and players he's beaten and could get top decked out or completely blown apart.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:20PM
#74
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And there's the win for Robinson.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:21PM
#75
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congrats to robinson i hope he continues down this path and wins many tournaments in the future with his homebrew decks.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:22PM
#76
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I'll be happy if LSV, Nassif or Robinson wins. Robinson due to deck entertainment levels.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:22PM
#77
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Oh, Yamamoto's up 2-1.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:28PM
#78
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And Orsini forces game 5.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:30PM
#79
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i will be dissappointed if nassif falls short here.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:30PM
#80
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All right, Ruess! (he forced game 5)
Go Nassif!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:34PM
#81
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i think nassif should have sided out something else and kept the wall of relevance in, cuz that guy is big and stops all of orsini jones's deck.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:37PM
#82
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Yeah, I'm kinda surprised the WoR's came out. He probably wants to bring in:
1 Celestial Purge
2 Negate
1 Remove Soul
1 Wispmare
2 Infest
2 Wrath
so that's 9 that need to come out. I see his problem.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:38PM
#83
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I think LSV is favored against Robinson. 4 Terror, 3 Path, 2 Wrath post-SB looks scary.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:39PM
#84
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yeah, but what is nassif straining over?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:41PM
#85
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I am surprised that he let 'seize resolve. I probably counter and bounce Heights there, prepping for having CC to fog/defend with Broodmate ftw.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:43PM
#86
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i agree, but now im thinking nassif has infest in his hand or something
I would put plumeveil in play and let charm go to the bin.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:45PM
#87
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Heh, I think this top 8 has more types of tokens than any ever: -Fae Rogue -Spirit -Goblin -Dragon also, Yamamoto wins. and there's your Infest.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:47PM
#88
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Hmm. I'd have thought Plumeveil comes in.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:49PM
#89
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that PtE was huge, because now nassif's library is shuffled.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:50PM
#90
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wow is he psychic?
that's better than the Helix in Honolulu.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:51PM
#91
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GABRIEL NASSIF IS EPIC WIN
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:52PM
#92
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Thats just ridiculous, the way Nassif drew the whole match. Its like the sixth or seventh perfect topdeck card when he needed. Disgusting.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:52PM
#93
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do u think if i mailed him a Cruel ultimatum with a letter requesting a signature due to this moment, that he would do it?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:53PM
#94
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MOST SAVAGE TOPDECK EVER
/cruise control
I guess I'm not allowed to make somewhat funny jokes about someong in my signature.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:53PM
#95
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That was a freakin insane topdeck O_O
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:54PM
#96
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Greater topdeck than Craig Jones?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:54PM
#97
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wow, but remember he pulled really bad topdecks throughout this match...so im gonna say that it was karma.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:55PM
#98
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While the Nassif pull was epic...I still gotta go with the Jones topdeck...since it ended the game right there.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:56PM
#99
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How long is this "lunch break"?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:57PM
#100
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Greater topdeck than Craig Jones?
More dramatic certainly.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:57PM
#101
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While the Nassif pull was epic...I still gotta go with the Jones topdeck...since it ended the game right there.
Yeah but remember cruel ultimatum usually ends the game within 1-2 turns of it being cast
At least he set it up better than craig jones by arranging his mana for the mana cost of Cruel ultimatum.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 7:59PM
#102
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Does anybody know when the semifinals start?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 8:00PM
#103
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after lunch
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 8:01PM
#104
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Greater topdeck than Craig Jones?
In my opinion, yes.
He set it up nicely too.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 8:05PM
#105
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top 8 my first ever ptq i went to in november, misread realm razor cost me my game, almost made it in this pro tour! Plan on winning the next one hehe 
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 8:07PM
#106
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i hope u do win the next pro tour.....Im still trying to get the funds to take magic more seriously in terms of actually going to ptq's/gp's
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 8:15PM
#107
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wish i could afford Gps, thats the way to get in, First place out of 120 ish people 6 times a year in my area kinda sux.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 8:34PM
#108
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How long is this "lunch break"?
??
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 8:35PM
#109
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This is the most thrilling Top 8 (and PT on the whole) in a long time.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 8:42PM
#110
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Randy / BDM -- I have a question...
Was the 37th place finisher -- Mattias Anderson -- the Same guy that was known as the "Screaming Swede" from the Greg Raymer/David Williams WSOP Episodes?
I remember he was talked about in those episodes as having been one of the guys that made the jump from Magic to Poker, and made many flambiuoant screaming video footage...
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 8:42PM
#111
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Greater topdeck than Craig Jones?
WAY better. Jones had a bunch of different redundant burn outs to win... Nassif needed exactly Cruel Ultimatum and the way he called it with his mana was awesome.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 8:48PM
#112
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I think the Nassif draw is better because all of cruel ultimatum was used. He needed to gain life, deal damage, draw answers, make the opponent pitch his answers, kill a dude, and get a dragon back. The lifegain in the Jones topdeck was useless.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 8:49PM
#113
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WAY better. Jones had a bunch of different redundant burn outs to win... Nassif needed exactly Cruel Ultimatum and the way he called it with his mana was awesome.
I completely agree...but Jones top deck was way more animated which made it great for fans...so it would go above this one by a lil' bit for that lone fact...and also cause Cruel is a end game card two or three turns before the actual end game...
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 8:55PM
#114
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BDM just said wrath answered teeg...
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 8:59PM
#115
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He sideboarded OUT 1 of the Cruels...
GABE DREW THE ONE OF OUT!
Definately the best top deck..
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:02PM
#116
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ok not to bring up shadows of the distant past, but is LSV up there in the ranks with the big 3 and mike long now? And if not do u think he's a first ballot hall of famer?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:06PM
#117
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Assuming you're talking about greatest players ever...Long doesn't get up there int he firs tplace, and I don't think LSV does yet.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:07PM
#118
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14 damage. On turn 3. Holy Christ.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:10PM
#119
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WOW.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:11PM
#120
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Man I hope these next games go better for LSV. That was ridiculous!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:11PM
#121
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actually i think that mike long gets up there, but he did cheat or do w/e he did to be condemned from magic (was before my time)..but if he never did that i think that he might be teh 4th greatest player of all time behind jon, kai, and gab of course.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:11PM
#122
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I think that they'll go better, because of all that removal he will and should side in.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:12PM
#123
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OMG!!
THAT WAS THE SICKEST TURN 3&4 I've ever seen!!!!
RE-FREAKIN-DICOULOUS!!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:16PM
#124
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What did LSV take out his War Monk with?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:17PM
#125
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What War Monk?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:17PM
#126
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terror probably.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:18PM
#127
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What War Monk?
the one that robinson played 2-3 turns before he died to token beats.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:18PM
#128
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Ah okay, no worries now the game is won .
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:20PM
#129
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why such a slow start from LSV in game 2?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:27PM
#130
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looks like LSV is holding the terror in grip for gaddock teeg, unless that's a bitterblossom.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:28PM
#131
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LSV has great board position right now. I think this games over.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:29PM
#132
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Randy: RE: Token creatures
As you can tell, I love a Deranged Hermit. Why should Wraths and Tidings be the only 4-for-1's in Magic?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:30PM
#133
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well LSV is up 2-1
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:31PM
#134
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I'm guessing I'm not alone in rooting for an LSV/Nassif final?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:31PM
#135
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Randy: RE: Token creatures
As you can tell, I love a Deranged Hermit. Why should Wraths and Tidings be the only 4-for-1's in Magic?
Completely agree Aaron. Go go creatures!
Also, love what ya'll are doing for the core sets from now on. Keep up the good work!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:33PM
#136
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I'm guessing I'm not alone in rooting for an LSV/Nassif final?
Yeah i gotta agree with u on this.
Also thnx for changing the rules to make it feel more like ur a wizard/mage dueling another wizard/mage.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:33PM
#137
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Great call on a deck by Robinson, by the way. More players should understand that if you aren't one of the best players in the room (no disrespect), you can't play the well-known "best deck" and expect to beat everyone. You have to play a deck with higher variance and higher upside than the best deck.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:34PM
#138
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Why wouldn't you chump block Doran?
Edit: Ah, Wrath off of Windbrisk Heights
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:35PM
#139
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What's the status of the other match?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:36PM
#140
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in the other match nassif is down 0-1
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:37PM
#141
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Congrats LSV!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:37PM
#142
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Wrath as a kill card...go LSV!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:38PM
#143
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WOOT WOOT FOR LSV!!!! But i really really like Robinson's Deck-list(what can i say i enjoy the underdog)
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:38PM
#144
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I love LSV so much right now.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:40PM
#145
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So why aren't they going to the other match? Are they just gonna play it from the beginning?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:41PM
#146
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i don't know, i think they are theorycrafting or something.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:42PM
#147
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They were just shuffling up.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:46PM
#148
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ah ok.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 9:51PM
#149
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it's hard to see how gab can come out of this precarious position.
ajani's counting down, lark coming down next turn, and 4 dorks in play.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:00PM
#150
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Great call on a deck by Robinson, by the way. More players should understand that if you aren't one of the best players in the room (no disrespect), you can't play the well-known "best deck" and expect to beat everyone. You have to play a deck with higher variance and higher upside than the best deck.
It's a shame that's the only way to get a green deck in the top eight these days. (No, Nassif's three whole Broodmate Dragons don't count.)
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:03PM
#151
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i agree to a certain point, but i think the control game yet more boring is more interesting.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:09PM
#152
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Green won the last Standard Pro Tour and it won the last Extended Pro Tour. Its status as a color is not in jeopardy.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:19PM
#153
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This is a really good game.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:22PM
#154
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Did I see it right? To get rid of the one figure of destiny Gabe cast 2 Volcanic Fallouts one after Yamamoto used the Forge tender to save a figure, then Ajani died from the fallout, but wouldn't Lark also have died?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:23PM
#155
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Wasn't Broodmate path to exiled?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:24PM
#156
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Did I see it right? To get rid of the one figure of destiny Gabe cast 2 Volcanic Fallouts one after Yamamoto used the Forge tender to save a figure, then Ajani died from the fallout, but wouldn't Lark also have died?
Forge Tender prevents all the damage. It doesn't give one guy pro red.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:25PM
#157
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Did I see it right? To get rid of the one figure of destiny Gabe cast 2 Volcanic Fallouts one after Yamamoto used the Forge tender to save a figure, then Ajani died from the fallout, but wouldn't Lark also have died?
no because all the dmg done by the first fallout was prevented by BFT. thefore lark would have only take 2 dmg from the 2nd fallout.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:25PM
#158
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Dyster: Burrenton Forge-Tender prevents all dmg Fallout would do. Guest: This was the Broodmate Nassif discarded on turn 2-3.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:26PM
#159
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this is over.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:27PM
#160
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Thank you all for the answers. I have mis interpreted another card yet again.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:27PM
#161
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Are there time limits on these matches? If so, how close are we?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:30PM
#162
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7 minutes.
I see.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:31PM
#163
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No, they're untimed, although they can still get warnings for Slow Play and stuff.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:33PM
#164
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yeah, but these people aren't playing slowly it's just that they're going deep into the turns.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:33PM
#165
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Haha! Making fun of Rosewater because of his pickiness. Mark just wrote about it in one of his articles. I know where he's coming from, because I'm pretty picky myself .
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:38PM
#166
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WAT that's insane.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:38PM
#167
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I was in the bathroom, what happened early on?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:39PM
#168
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first big play was T6 or so lark T7 Cruel ultimatum from nassif getting back 2 figures.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:40PM
#169
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I saw that - I came back to see the Lark being played - what happened before?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:40PM
#170
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Randy's song is Shook Me All Night Long (or whatever the proper title of that song is), right? I'm sure Teddy Card Game wrote about it in one of his articles on Star City.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:42PM
#171
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I saw that - I came back to see the Lark being played - what happened before?
nothing really just a figure getting played pumped up to 4/4 or so and then terrored this has been a dull game so far.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:44PM
#172
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nothing really just a figure getting played pumped up to 4/4 or so and then terrored this has been a dull game so far.
Ok, thanks.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:45PM
#173
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no problem
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:52PM
#174
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2-1 Nassif!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:53PM
#175
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go go Five Color Control.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:54PM
#176
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You've really gotta love this matchup for all-around epicness.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:54PM
#177
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any1 else think that japanese guy with the board wandering around that he looks like jet-li?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:55PM
#178
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were there any good opens in the Beta draft?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 10:55PM
#179
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You've really gotta love this matchup for all-around epicness.
yeah since i can only competantly play control i always cheer for those decks no matter wat kind of control deck they are.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 11:02PM
#180
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Harbinger deck wins.
I guess I'm not allowed to make somewhat funny jokes about someong in my signature.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 11:06PM
#181
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Why did he play Elspeth?
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 11:06PM
#182
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I think the Elspeth is supposed to soak up two attacks...
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 11:08PM
#183
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yesyesyesyesyes
LSV vs NASSIF
yesyesyesyesyes
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 11:08PM
#184
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i think he just paniced and didn't know what to do.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 11:09PM
#185
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Well, that didn't work for Yamamoto.
Great match, and this is going to be a great final.
Congrats Nassif!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 11:21PM
#186
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- Forum Guide
- Oh, the redhead said to shred the cello
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I was soooo right about Wall of Reverence.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 11:26PM
#187
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Here we go!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 11:33PM
#188
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And now I'm realllllllllllly mad I didn't start Nassif in our fantasy MTG league.
I guess I'm not allowed to make somewhat funny jokes about someong in my signature.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 11:37PM
#189
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Interesting, he boarded in Wydwen.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 11:42PM
#190
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I'm not sure I like the Wydwen here, especially over the other walls.
I guess I'm not allowed to make somewhat funny jokes about someong in my signature.
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 11:43PM
#191
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Come on, show some showmanship!
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12 months ago ::
Feb 28, 2009 - 11:48PM
#192
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If this isn't a 3-2 match I will cry.
Also, worst time for forum downtime ever.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:03AM
#193
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2-1 LSV...but if anyone can come back, it's Nassif.
Also, gogo hat eating.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:05AM
#194
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:08AM
#195
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http://www.designboom.com/trash/bse.html
BDM, this is for you.
Sweet Jesus, now THAT's epic!
I guess I'm not allowed to make somewhat funny jokes about someong in my signature.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:11AM
#196
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Wow, bomby hand. That's why playing 27 lands is so fun sometimes.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:32AM
#197
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Wow. That might be game, set, and match...
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:39AM
#198
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Good going for both LSV and Nassif. I was hoping Nassif would win, but either way it's good. I think they will both be inducted to the Hall of Fame eventually.
Ivo.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:43AM
#199
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YES!
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:44AM
#200
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Good going for both LSV and Nassif. I was hoping Nassif would win, but either way it's good. I think they will both be inducted to the Hall of Fame eventually.
Ivo.
hey, it's tied 2-2 right now. don't count nassif out yet.
any anyone saying i'm using the changes in time for my own purposes, this was posted after the fallout left LSV with a single 3/3 and BB.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:44AM
#201
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Holy Cow!
Nassif, what a game
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:46AM
#202
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If LSV plays head games instead of baiting with the elspeth, LSV would have had an elspeth the next turn and would have won.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:47AM
#203
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this game is one of legendary proportions!! *sigh* makes me fall in love with Magic all over again...
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:48AM
#204
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Want to learn how to play great Magic? Watch the last game over and over.
I guess I'm not allowed to make somewhat funny jokes about someong in my signature.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:48AM
#205
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If LSV plays head games instead of baiting with the elspeth, LSV would have had an elspeth the next turn and would have won.
nassif had two negates and a broken ambitions at that point. LSV couldn't pay for both head games and the windbrisk activation (he had 6 mana total). that play wouldn't have won the game.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:48AM
#206
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Nassif and LSV are such masters. LSV for playing this deck to success. I have been trying his and GerryTs BW token decks for months, and just can't get them to work.
Nassif for not countering the Ajani and playing the game absolutely perfectly.
Congrats to both players for just being ridiculous (although I still think Head Games is terrible.)
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:50AM
#207
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LSV mulls to 6! No, we want a clean game!
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:50AM
#208
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Ouch, LSV has to mull to 5...
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:50AM
#209
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5, ach! Nassif better mull too...
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:51AM
#210
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Nassif and LSV are such masters. LSV for playing this deck to success. I have been trying his and GerryTs BW token decks for months, and just can't get them to work.
Nassif for not countering the Ajani and playing the game absolutely perfectly.
Congrats to both players for just being ridiculous (although I still think Head Games is terrible.)
The deck's popularity is terrible considering it's a very solid deck with multiple ways to win quickly. It does take some practice to play it most effectively but it has several draws that just bowl people over (like the Ancestral-Blossom Faeries lists from last year).
I can't believe that the commentators were pushing for countering Ajani. The fact that Nassif let it resolve, even without knowing about Head Games in LSV's grip, is amazing.
Head Games or Mind Shatter are both great out of the B/W board. Head Games is preferable because you can Heights it, obviously.
I guess I'm not allowed to make somewhat funny jokes about someong in my signature.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:53AM
#211
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This looks good for Nassif, albeit anticlimactic.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 12:57AM
#212
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This looks good for Nassif, albeit anticlimactic.
yeah, what a shame that this is the final match after the past four games being so epic.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 1:00AM
#213
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THERE IT IS! Nassif wins in a great top 8!
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 1:00AM
#214
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'grats, nassif!
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 1:00AM
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Simply fantastic.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 1:01AM
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Now I'm super super ultra cruel ultimatumly mad that I didn't start Nassif in the fantasy league.
I guess I'm not allowed to make somewhat funny jokes about someong in my signature.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 1:04AM
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congrats gabe congrats lsv
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 1:06AM
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So are those claps real or fake?
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 1:11AM
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so i couldnt have spent my Sat/Sun. any better than watching this AMAZING finals and TOP 8...saw the best top deck ever and one of the best finals in history!!
LSV is still one of my fav.'s
But Gabe deserved this one!! 9T8's!!! Good Job both!!
Abs. Amazing Magic!!
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 1:12AM
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i am happy to see 5cc win this pt. from the beginning i kept saying to people "5cc is gonna be good" lol granted gabe's deck needs a slight tweak, it is a great deck, as far as i am concerned:D i was rooting for lsv to win for a while there.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 1:20AM
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The deck's popularity is terrible considering it's a very solid deck with multiple ways to win quickly. It does take some practice to play it most effectively but it has several draws that just bowl people over (like the Ancestral-Blossom Faeries lists from last year).
I can't believe that the commentators were pushing for countering Ajani. The fact that Nassif let it resolve, even without knowing about Head Games in LSV's grip, is amazing.
Head Games or Mind Shatter are both great out of the B/W board. Head Games is preferable because you can Heights it, obviously.
It has some explosive draws, and plays very powerful cards, but it felt like there were a ton of clunky draws as well. It just seems like Fae is a better bitterblossom deck (although getting to play with Elspeth and Ajani is nice. The planesalkers are so ridiculous, I think Nassif was nuts for not having 4 needles in his list.)
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 10:59AM
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The mulligan rules are too punishing and definitely need work. It's game 5, two awesome players with two decks that match up really well against each other: the perfect scenario. And what happens? mulligan, mulligan, and Nassif walks in for the win. Nobody wants that! This happens just after a game they are comparing with the best of all time! What a waste of potential.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 11:17AM
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Quick comment about the postings of the other top standard decks. Would it be possible to format them in a more readable fashion? By this I mean that all decks from 5-3 to 8-0 is a lot of decks, and it'd be nice to know how each deck did without having to refer back to the results for each round. If maybe the record could be posted in the title, that would be good. Especially in this format, where it is even harder than worlds to differentiate between records for formats and overall records, with constructed and limited rounds both being played each day.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 11:46AM
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What are the standing for Player of the Year right now? I couldn't find the standings online.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 5:30PM
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12 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2009 - 8:35PM
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I think it would be more accurate if the short summary on the Magic main page was changed to say, "Nassif, playing in his ninth Top 8, defeated the scorchingly hot Luis Scott-Vargas in an epic Standard showdown after LSV was forced to double mulligan in the fifth and deciding game to capture his second career Pro Tour win."
After the amazing tournament he had, LSV got a very unlucky draw in the final game, as he had to mulligan twice and then was mana flooded, and so he only wins half as much money as Nassif. I know Wizards had to raise the PT winner's payout to match the winner's payout of the VS. pro tour (is that still around?), but I think it would be much more fair if the differences in payouts for the top few places were not so huge.
Also, it's interesting how different the coverage is before & after the top 8 was played. During the first 2 days of coverage a major theme, and one that I completely agree with, is that LSV is on an incredible hot streak, and is almost certainly the best Magic player in the world right now. Now that the top 8 is over, it's all about how Nassif is one of the 3 best players of all time. LSV being the best player in the world right now isn't changed because of how unlucky he got in that last game.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 02, 2009 - 3:06AM
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Nassif had to mulligan in other crucial games (even in other tournaments) - this is just part of the game for every person. There really isn't much to do about it. Even without mulligans being involved, sometimes there are draws that are simply "I win" (or conversely, "I lose").
I think both Nassif and LSV are going to get inducted to the Hall of Fame when their time arrives. I'm really glad that Nassif won, he's been such a great player for such a long period. LSV is great as well, and it really seems he's going to continue to do well - maybe in a future event the coverage will say LSV is on of the top players of all time, instead of "just" on an incredibly hot streak.
Ivo.
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12 months ago ::
Mar 02, 2009 - 7:04AM
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I think it would be more accurate if the short summary on the Magic main page was changed to say, "Nassif, playing in his ninth Top 8, defeated the scorchingly hot Luis Scott-Vargas in an epic Standard showdown after LSV was forced to double mulligan in the fifth and deciding game to capture his second career Pro Tour win."
After the amazing tournament he had, LSV got a very unlucky draw in the final game, as he had to mulligan twice and then was mana flooded, and so he only wins half as much money as Nassif. I know Wizards had to raise the PT winner's payout to match the winner's payout of the VS. pro tour (is that still around?), but I think it would be much more fair if the differences in payouts for the top few places were not so huge.
Also, it's interesting how different the coverage is before & after the top 8 was played. During the first 2 days of coverage a major theme, and one that I completely agree with, is that LSV is on an incredible hot streak, and is almost certainly the best Magic player in the world right now. Now that the top 8 is over, it's all about how Nassif is one of the 3 best players of all time. LSV being the best player in the world right now isn't changed because of how unlucky he got in that last game.
And Nassif had his share of unlucky mulligans, what's your point? He beat LSV fairly.
Nassif won, and deserves to be the center of attention right now.. As good as LSV is, Nassif further cementing his place in the big 3 with Finkel and Budde is the biggest thing of this PT.
You sound too much like a bitter LSV fan to be honest. 
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