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5 years ago  ::  Dec 18, 2008 - 4:12PM #1
WotC_Monty
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Making Magic, which goes live Monday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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5 years ago  ::  Dec 18, 2008 - 4:42PM #2
Sikyanakotik
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Happy New Year! Eventually!
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5 years ago  ::  Dec 19, 2008 - 7:55AM #3
Hacimen
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1) When I go off on one of my useless tangents, I will ask someone else on my staff to write the design article that week.
2) I will finish turning all of my articles into Wikipedia entries, and by the end of the year almost every phrase will be a hyperlink to another article.

I predict one of these is on his list
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4 years ago  ::  Jan 04, 2009 - 9:30PM #4
Seeker_after_Chaos
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I hope it's drawing cards. I really like to draw cards.
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4 years ago  ::  Jan 04, 2009 - 9:36PM #5
mudbuck
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Objection!

Design Lesson #3 doesn't line up with a recent action you have taken. Remember Ooze Garden ? I recall you pushing the design when almost everyone else wanted it out.
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4 years ago  ::  Jan 04, 2009 - 10:35PM #6
Sikyanakotik
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I love it when you're able to tie together design lessons and life lessons, Mark. I know I'll do my best to apply these lessons to both.

Of course, I'd add a number 11: Trust yourself. If you have doubts about something, figure out why, because there's a good chance there's something about it worth doubting.

mudbuck wrote:

Objection!

Design Lesson #3 doesn't line up with a recent action you have taken. Remember Ooze Garden ? I recall you pushing the design when almost everyone else wanted it out.


The resistance to Ooze Garden was not due to it not fitting in the set. In fact, it has excellent synergy with unearth and exalted.

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4 years ago  ::  Jan 04, 2009 - 11:15PM #7
SnowFire
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Comment Re: Odyssey: Yeah, I can see that being a set not well-received by non-Spikes. Sure, I guess part of it was that discarding cards (especially randomly) isn't fun, but it was also the wildly inconsistent power level attached to it. On one end you have Wild Mongrel and Wearbear ... and then you have the Red discard commons in Odyssey. Discarding a card randomly for a great effect? You might sell casuals on that ( Stormbind ). Discarding a card randomly for +2/+0? On a 1/1? ( Pardic Swordsmith ) Not so much.

Many of the good cards in Odyssey were also rather subtle such that didn't leap out to casual players as awesome ( Bearscape , Moment's Peace , Careful Study , Master Apothecary - all excellent in the right spot, but none say "Wow"). The set also had a huge proportion of crap rares. Yes, every set needs bad rares, but Odyssey needed more bad rares like Cabal Patriarch (Huge, makes the graveyard relevant, good for casual players) and fewer like Tombfire and Pedantic Learning .

I definitely think "discard is cool" could be sold to casual players, but not underpowered discard. Vaguely similar to Echo, I suppose- as discussed in an earlier column, Echo is a nonsexy mechanic whose only benefit is that it allows R&D to safely undercost various effects. Therefore a card with Echo that isn't selling itself on brokenly awesome extra effects ( Avalanche Riders vs. Flamecore Elemental ) is pretty much a guaranteed failure. One of those mechanics only fun at a high power level, I guess.
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4 years ago  ::  Jan 05, 2009 - 12:17AM #8
unbrokencircle
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Seeker after Chaos wrote:

I hope it's drawing cards. I really like to draw cards.


Oh wow, I hope so, that would be pretty cool.

But I imagine it's something else, like playing creatures or something like that.

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4 years ago  ::  Jan 05, 2009 - 2:42AM #9
alextfish
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"Attacking" is the conventional answer: the reason why Nicol Bolas is more popular than any of the other Elder Dragon Legends, and the reason why most dragons with triggered abilities since then have triggered on dealing (combat) damage to a player. ( Hateflayer is another excellent example of rewarding a player for doing what they want to do anyway with their 5/5 wither.)

But "drawing cards" could be good too.

There's even an outside chance it could be "gain life". (Or "play multicolour spells", I suppose.)
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4 years ago  ::  Jan 05, 2009 - 4:04AM #10
PhageRules1
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IMHO MaRo should have explicitly stated that the Razortooth Rats from Mirrodin was actually Dross Prowler . I imagine there's a very confused player out there somewhere. Probably more than one, actually.
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