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5 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2008 - 3:44PM #1
WotC_Monty
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Savor the Flavor, which goes live Wednesday on magicthegathering.com.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2008 - 4:16PM #2
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This had better not be a Yanni album...
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 21, 2008 - 9:23PM #3
Alcalientre
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Was that an excerpt from something I can buy, or was it written just for this column? The last Magic related literature I read was during Ice Age, and it was slightly... lacking, but this was excellent.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2008 - 2:05AM #4
Stoic_Angel
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ummmmm.....wow
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2008 - 4:48AM #5
Dr_Kraid
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That was easy!
I just proved beyong any doubt that your wording was wrong yet you insist to keep your flawed wording? You are by far the most horrible designer on this forum. Even Bankai would admit he's wrong when faced with such beyond-doubt proof. And that's saying something. You will have cards in your set. That are worded wrong. And you know they're worded wrong. Just because you won't admit you were wrong even though you and everyone else know you are wrong. Wow, just wow. Unbelievable.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2008 - 6:56AM #6
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Amazing short story, possibly the best I've ever read on this site. The character of Eliza is fascinating : she appears very sympathetic compared to the rest of Grixis' lords, yet she is obviously very black. I love how she combines black and red magic to animate a dragon skeleton with fire in place of flesh. That would be a really cool creature card to design... Imagine the type line : Creature - Elemental Skeleton Dragon !

That single story makes me like Grixis a lot more. Mission accomplished, Doug !

Kevin]How does Green's flavor of plants, animals, instinct, growth, predator-prey, etc., fit in with Angels? My inner Vorthos is scratching his head at how any Angel could possibly connect with "Mother Nature" enough to warrant having "G" in their casting cost.

It almost seems like the "G" was shoehorned in because "there's Green mana in Bant so the big creatures designed to represent it must include 'G' in their casting cost." I know this can't be the case though, as the people involved in creating Shards of Alara are far too talented for that. Can you shed some light on this for me?


Of course that can be the case, Kevin. While Doug provided a good explanation of the flavor of green in Bant's angels, it was only a justification. The reason why the angels are green is because they mechanically had to be, as you stated, and then Creative had to found a way to have it make sense. That said, they did that quite well. They at least did it better than with a number of other tri-color creatures in the set that have one or two mana symbols shoehorned. I don't mind too much, it's just that it would be hypocrit to hide tha wrote:

How does Green's flavor of plants, animals, instinct, growth, predator-prey, etc., fit in with Angels? My inner Vorthos is scratching his head at how any Angel could possibly connect with "Mother Nature" enough to warrant having "G" in their casting cost.

It almost seems like the "G" was shoehorned in because "there's Green mana in Bant so the big creatures designed to represent it must include 'G' in their casting cost." I know this can't be the case though, as the people involved in creating Shards of Alara are far too talented for that. Can you shed some light on this for me?[/quote]
Of course that can be the case, Kevin. While Doug provided a good explanation of the flavor of green in Bant's angels, it was only a justification. The reason why the angels are green is because they mechanically had to be, as you stated, and then Creative had to found a way to have it make sense. That said, they did that quite well. They at least did it better than with a number of other tri-color creatures in the set that have one or two mana symbols shoehorned. I don't mind too much, it's just that it would be hypocrit to hide that fact.


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5 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2008 - 7:48AM #7
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Eliza - "is powerful wizard!"

Sedris - "is moar powerful wizard!"

Eliza - ::casts teh spell::

Sedris - "oh noes i fail kthnxbye"

Eliza - "is powerful wizard!"

I adore Magic literature.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2008 - 7:54AM #8
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Very interesting story. Eliza could be a planeswalker on a expansion :D
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Jan 14, 2012 -- 5:42PM, Vektor480 wrote:

I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".


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Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:28PM, Qmark wrote:

Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:15PM, ROBRAM89 wrote:

Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.

Now, now.
1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".


Oct 11, 2011 -- 9:43PM, Tevish_Szat wrote:

Oh, it's a brilliant plan.  You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat.  Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit.  He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee.  "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk.  He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy.  He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right.  Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms.
"THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!"

And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.


Feb 25, 2012 -- 2:54PM, Mown wrote:

Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.


Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:47PM, Qmark wrote:

Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:36PM, SleetFox wrote:

This thread has gotten creepy.  XP

Really?
Really?

The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?


Jun 26, 2011 -- 5:52AM, MrQuizzles wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:59AM, Mown wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:44AM, skeindubh wrote:


4 tropical island
4 savannah
4 bayou
4 taiga
4 savannah


Nice mana base.
Not really.



Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.


May 2, 2011 -- 8:18AM, desolation_masticore wrote:

I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.


Apr 3, 2011 -- 1:39AM, DrWorm wrote:

Apr 3, 2011 -- 12:02AM, crazysamaritan wrote:

Of course, the best use [of tolaria west ] is transmuting for the real Tolaria.



Absolutely.  I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria , and I was finally able win my first game.


Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:17PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

WOAH

wait wait wait

Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated



OH MY GOD


Nov 22, 2011 -- 3:52PM, Pontiac wrote:

The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 8:55PM, Glasir wrote:

The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.


Jan 21, 2011 -- 7:11AM, Qmark wrote:


Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available.
"No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.


Jul 10, 2012 -- 11:28AM, Dragon_Nut wrote:

Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.



Aug 3, 2011 -- 6:46PM, ChaosLight wrote:

You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 7:30PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Oct 10, 2011 -- 5:53PM, Rubik wrote:

You just... Vektor it.


That's the answer to everything.


Jan 17, 2011 -- 6:16PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

Jan 17, 2011 -- 5:58PM, Ragnarokio wrote:


I think the problem is that you don't exist.


This would sound great out of context!


Dec 19, 2011 -- 9:07PM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:

Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.


Aug 4, 2011 -- 2:15PM, Mown wrote:

Aug 4, 2011 -- 1:45PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:


I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.


You make it sound like that's still not the case.


Jan 4, 2011 -- 3:04AM, Niklor wrote:

Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.


Doug Beyer:

But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?


Mar 20, 2012 -- 1:32PM, Terti wrote:

Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :


Aug 15, 2011 -- 8:06PM, Veslfen wrote:

to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.


Aug 1, 2011 -- 12:35AM, Ragnarokio wrote:

when in rome RAPE AND PILLAGE


Jan 31, 2012 -- 11:23AM, TchainT wrote:

I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.


Dymecoar:

Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets.  You can do it...but why?


Omega137:

Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right."
Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"


Zigeif777:

Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.


Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:29AM, JustTerrorIt wrote:

Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:09AM, quadibloc wrote:

It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf , Darksteel Colossus , or Platinum Angel . It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus , Mox Sapphire , and Time Walk .


Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.


Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:11PM, Test-Subject_217601 wrote:

Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:06PM, NeoMint wrote:

I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...


They can when they're using lightsabers !


Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:59AM, Sebanovich wrote:

Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:54AM, Long_Con wrote:

My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days.  We named it Grixis, but it died. 


Unearth it!


Jan 15, 2011 -- 8:07PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

I'm a Da Vinci Neurok.





And I'm on Magic Arcana. How about you?
Oh, by the way, I'm also on From the Lab now.
Twice, actually. And now with my own submited decklist!
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2008 - 8:48AM #9
Dr_Kraid
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MadMageQc wrote:

Amazing short story, possibly the best I've ever read on this site.


Nah, the best one was that Martyred Rusalka one.

I just proved beyong any doubt that your wording was wrong yet you insist to keep your flawed wording? You are by far the most horrible designer on this forum. Even Bankai would admit he's wrong when faced with such beyond-doubt proof. And that's saying something. You will have cards in your set. That are worded wrong. And you know they're worded wrong. Just because you won't admit you were wrong even though you and everyone else know you are wrong. Wow, just wow. Unbelievable.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 22, 2008 - 9:09AM #10
Sidar_Jabari_02
Date Joined: Sep 17, 2004
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Bravo!

I really like these short stories better than the novels. The brief snippets of story match the brief flashes of events that are revealed on the cards. I always thought that when Weatherlight came out, Magic became less interesting. Since Kamigawa, the flavor has definitely moved in a direction that I prefer. A little less focus on the linear narrative and more on the setting and the people.

I remember being moved by the martyred rusalka story but now I can't remember anything specific about it. I'm off to look it up and rediscover it.
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