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4 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2009 - 6:38AM #21
AkromaAngelofWrath
Date Joined: Nov 6, 2007
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MTG-Fan wrote:

Uh... really, do you have any idea what you are talking about?


Yes, I do.

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2009 - 11:05AM #22
Bastow
Date Joined: Dec 4, 2006
Posts: 547
To sum up my thoughts on this issue once again:

4*Goyf = 100$ = no problem. Anyone can get a playset of Goyfs if they really want them. The end.

Top 10 most played cards in Extended:
# 2741 Island
# 2485 Tarmogoyf
# 2106 Windswept Heath
# 1832 Forest
# 1804 Wooded Foothills
# 1775 Mountain
# 1672 Umezawa's Jitte
# 1602 Spell Snare
# 1535 Polluted Delta
# 1523 Flooded Strand
= A problem.
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2009 - 11:46AM #23
MaxFAn
Date Joined: May 4, 2009
Posts: 1,568

Bastow wrote:

To sum up my thoughts on this issue once again:

4*Goyf = 100$ = no problem. Anyone can get a playset of Goyfs if they really want them. The end.

Top 10 most played cards in Extended:
# 2741 Island
# 2485 Tarmogoyf
# 2106 Windswept Heath
# 1832 Forest
# 1804 Wooded Foothills
# 1775 Mountain
# 1672 Umezawa's Jitte
# 1602 Spell Snare
# 1535 Polluted Delta
# 1523 Flooded Strand
= A problem.


Well, Island clearly has to go.

The end is always nigh.
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2009 - 2:18PM #24
Wyrath
Date Joined: Aug 15, 2007
Posts: 715

Bastow wrote:

To sum up my thoughts on this issue once again:

4*Goyf = 100$ = no problem. Anyone can get a playset of Goyfs if they really want them. The end.

Top 10 most played cards in Extended:
# 2741 Island
# 2485 Tarmogoyf
# 2106 Windswept Heath
# 1832 Forest
# 1804 Wooded Foothills
# 1775 Mountain
# 1672 Umezawa's Jitte
# 1602 Spell Snare
# 1535 Polluted Delta
# 1523 Flooded Strand
= A problem.


You might want to remove those numbers as they make no sense without the deckcheck reference.

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2009 - 2:24PM #25
Bastow
Date Joined: Dec 4, 2006
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MaxFAn wrote:

Well, Island clearly has to go.


Everyone knows Island is the most broken card in any format[/oldjoke]

Wyrath wrote:

You might want to remove those numbers as they make no sense without the deckcheck reference.

:P


I just assumed people would get it. Silly. To clarify: the numbers are taken from deckcheck.net

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2009 - 5:54PM #26
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Date Joined: May 4, 2008
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Bastow wrote:

To sum up my thoughts on this issue once again:

4*Goyf = 100$ = no problem. Anyone can get a playset of Goyfs if they really want them. The end.


I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not paying $100 for 4 pieces of cardboard.

Of course, in my case, I made sure to trade for as many Goyfs as I could when Future Sight was first released... so I'm sitting on a stack of about 12 of them right now.

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2009 - 9:05PM #27
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Date Joined: Oct 7, 2005
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This is silly conversation, Goyf isn't even that good anymore-- without the fetchlands he is consitently -1/-1 making him still decent but not omgwtf gigantic. Probably comes out of the gate in bolt range most of the time now, the dreaded goyf won't be the ultimate house that he used to be.

If he really irks you that much just play faeries and run md threads of disloyalty, a $2.00 card, and relish in the joy of stealing other people's goyfs and killing them with em.
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 13, 2009 - 6:17AM #28
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Bastow wrote:

To sum up my thoughts on this issue once again:

4*Goyf = 100$ = no problem. Anyone can get a playset of Goyfs if they really want them. The end.


That's an awfully ignorant perspective.

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 13, 2009 - 6:40AM #29
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royk wrote:

That's an awfully ignorant perspective.


How so?

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 13, 2009 - 7:47AM #30
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Date Joined: Oct 26, 2007
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I'm going to agree with bastow on this one. Anyone going to a tournament seriously will have invested much more than $100 in their deck, and many of them probably invested about that much on just getting one playset of cards, much like they would with goyf.

Goyf is a good card but is in no way format warping. Goyf is hit by almost every single spot removal in the format, if you can't find something in your color to kill it, splash. If it's really giving you that much trouble and you're not playing tournaments, ask your playgroup not to use it. If that still doesn't work then just play standard instead, where Goyf will no longer be usable in a couple months.

Goyf is not a card like disciple of the vault that basically forced everyone to either play affinity, or specifically play against it. Or like vial that forced every control deck to play MD artifact hate so they didn't auto-lose game one to aggro, and made aggro decks much more consistent and able to dodge removal by playing anything they want EOT.

I have no problems with goyf at all, smothers and threads have made sure I don't have problems with it.
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