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4 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2009 - 7:11AM #111
Vizier
Date Joined: Jun 17, 2005
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GoTexans wrote:

So for burn I've got this so far for post rotation;

Creatures:
4x Spark Elemental
4x Keldon Marauders
4x Ballion Lightning

Burn:
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Lava Spike
2x Shard Volley
4x Rift Bolt
4x Magma Jet
4x Shrapnel Blast
4x Flamebreak

Land:
4x Darksteel Citadel
4x Great Furnace
14x Mountain

Sb:
3x Tormod's Crypt
2x Shattering Spree
4x Smash to Smithereens
4x Everlasting Torment
2x ???

You would think Ball Lightning and shrapnel blast would be hard to put in the same deck but so far I've not had a problem casting either when I needed to. I think the big reason is Magma Jet which allows me to set up some draws I may not have had otherwise.

P.S. I'm going to miss ensaring bridge .


Ball lightning helps burn even more than lightning bolt imho. Burn is going to be pretty popular and lists like this will be everywhere.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2009 - 7:22AM #112
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Vizier wrote:

Ball lightning helps burn even more than lightning bolt imho. Burn is going to be pretty popular and lists like this will be everywhere.


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4 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2009 - 7:53AM #113
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iamajellydonut wrote:

Other decks were able to mainboard (or board in general) hate for the above decks. Affinity had to waste spots in order to do that (and it still struggled). However, now that the above is gone, Affinity can go on and consistently win turn four with glee.


You aren't getting it. I agree that the format is slightly better for affinity post rotation, but that still doesn't change the fact that affinity is simply worse than other affinity decks you could choose from. Naya zoo decks are just as fast and more consistant, harder to hate out oh and yeah they beat the stuffing out of affinity in the aggro vs aggro match.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2009 - 2:50PM #114
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Naya Zoo is getting alot worse, it's mana is going to be much less consistent or Wild Nacatl and Kird Ape are getting a lot worse.
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4 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2009 - 4:13PM #115
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gamegeek2 wrote:

Naya Zoo is getting alot worse, it's mana is going to be much less consistent or Wild Nacatl and Kird Ape are getting a lot worse.


Lightning Bolt more than makes up for that.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2009 - 6:40PM #116
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mntwinsfan wrote:

Lightning Bolt more than makes up for that.


Lightning bolt is a welcome addition, but not a replacement. If Kitty and Ape fail to be consistent 2 / 3 and 3 / 3 on turn 2, aggro may better explore other color combinations.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2009 - 6:46PM #117
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javert wrote:

Lightning bolt is a welcome addition, but not a replacement. If Kitty and Ape fail to be consistent 2 / 3 and 3 / 3 on turn 2, aggro may better explore other color combinations.


I never said Bolt was a replacement. It just makes up for the rather infrequent (if you build your manabase right) color/basic land type problems.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2009 - 6:59PM #118
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mntwinsfan wrote:

Lightning Bolt more than makes up for that.


mntwinsfan wrote:

I never said Bolt was a replacement.


While it isn't a replacement, it does not more than make up for it. Zoo is not burn.

Path to Exile, while it would be a good card in CounterTop, does not make up for the fact that SDT is banned. Same is true for Zoo. A support card will rarely ever be more than a support card.

The kitty has been neutered, and no amount of male enhancement can make up for it.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2009 - 7:11PM #119
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iamajellydonut wrote:

While it isn't a replacement, it does not more than make up for it. Zoo is not burn.

Path to Exile, while it would be a good card in CounterTop, does not make up for the fact that SDT is banned. Same is true for Zoo. A support card will rarely ever be more than a support card.

The kitty has been neutered, and no amount of male enhancement can make up for it.


You're really overestimating how many mana problems Zoo will have. The manabase really isn't bad at all. I'm currently using this:

4 Stomping Ground
4 Temple Garden
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Mountain
4 Plains
3 Forest

It works fine. Yeah, you have to play 23 lands, but with Ranger of Eos in the deck, you want at least 22 anyways.

Also, your analogy is very flawed, but I don't really care since it isn't relevant anyways.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 25, 2009 - 8:03PM #120
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Statistically speaking, using mntwins' manabase, you're bound to have every one of your basic land types in your opening hand. Forest is the one you have the least and you have ten. This gives you approximately 125% chance of drawing one in your opening hand.

Of course, statistics aren't everything and you could get screwed anyways, but so will all 3-Color decks in the post-rotation.
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