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frasmage wrote:

For example, SDT was banned because it slowed the format down way too much with every second deck playing counter-top. Similarly, disciple of the vault made affinity's game far too fast, making the it the strongest deck, by far at the time. These cards made the format tick too much.

The whole Arcbound Ravager , Disciple of the Vault and Skullclamp combo was unfair, not just disciple of the vault. Affinity is still rapid, laying down artifact lands + ornithopter s to easily open a 2nd turn, maybe even a 1st turn frogmite (2 ornithopters + artifact land)

That's what makes affinity so fun, the rapid playing of cards :D

I: Money isn't really an issue since none of these cards are all that expensive. Even 12-year old McNoob can deliver a few papers and afford a playset of either card. However, it's funny that Goyf and Jitte are rares, while SDT and Vial aren't .

II: Official ban policy is doesn't really support either stance on Goyf and Jitte. SDT is 'just' a good card too, time concerns aren't really a reason to keep it banned, I mean look at elves. As a comparison; Vial isn't even half as played as Goyf in legacy, where both are legal and Vial have Vial Goblins and Merfolk going for it.

III: Equating 'free' with broken and 'HUGE vanilla beatstick' with not broken as a default answer isn't really an argument.

IV: Yes, there will always be cards that are the best at their jobs, but isn't it possible to do the job too well? Kitty is very good at it's job, Bob is very good at his, Knight of the Reliquary and Crusher are very good at their jobs. Tomstalker is a great creature as well. But none of them can even put a dent in Goyf's status as the best creature. Note that a lot of other very, very good creatures are pretty much on par, they're powerful in different ways and decks. Goyf is the best beatstick in any deck
that have even the slightest chance of running him. Not a selection of decks, not most decks, but any deck. Claiming that a fact like that doesn't make Goyf format warping is really stretching the linguistic definition of the term 'format warping'. Jitte is a less extreme case, but the points remain the same.

@iamajellydonut: First of all, don't kid yourself, you're not that important. Secondly, good job trying to start a flamewar in a fairly civil thread /golfclap.