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4 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2009 - 3:11PM
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What NLU are you referring to exactly? Because that deck died with the banning of SDT. Any blue-based control is basically Wizards/Faeries at the moment.
Umm, false? Look for actual evidence before you make posts like this.
Possible? yes. Effective? No. Zoo struggles enough already; kill the consistency of its manabase and it becomes tier2 at best.
Do you honestly believe this? Tri-color decks without fetches have existed before without fetches easily (rav standard, those decks were standard, but also had much more limited options). Kami-Rav zoo ran almost perfectly and didn't have filters, pools, or other fixing.
Dragonstorm is not nearly as powerful or consistent as TEPS. I doubt it will place anywhere.
It's only a turn to two turns slower and the meta will most likely be slowing down anyway.
Doesn't dredge lose some critical pieces?
No.
I disagree.
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4 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2009 - 3:56PM
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Where is the NLU thread on here? People keep talking about that deck but all I see is Faeries and Wizards. Could someone point me to the right thread? Also... a set of recent top8s: http://www.deckcheck.net/event.php?even … ea+%2F+USAhttp://www.deckcheck.net/event.php?even … do+%2F+USAhttp://www.deckcheck.net/event.php?even … er+%2F+USAhttp://www.deckcheck.net/event.php?even … II+%2F+USAetc etc etc. look at all of the recent top8s on deckcheck for EXT and you will see 90% of the blue-based control decks are either Wizards or Faeries decks. NLU IS FAERIES right now and vice versa. It is not a separate archetype, my friends. http://www.deckcheck.net/list.php?events=Ons_8th_SoASo, people like mtwinsfan and evilweevil, please do YOUR research before making uninformed replies.
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4 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2009 - 4:35PM
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4 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2009 - 4:38PM
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- UnCon Prizewinner 2008
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Date Joined:
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Here's my list of ins and outs. Viable or not.
In:
Affinity
Bant-Aggro
Burn
Dragonstorm
Dredge
D-Stompy
Rock
W/R Stax
Tezzy
Tron
Wiz/Fae
Zoo
Fringe:
Elves
MWC
Out:
Loam
Slide
TEPS
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What's wrong with my formating?
you make paragraphs shorter than the page width
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4 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2009 - 5:00PM
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Date Joined:
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What NLU are you referring to exactly? Because that deck died with the banning of SDT. Any blue-based control is basically Wizards/Faeries at the moment.
This one.
Possible? yes. Effective? No. Zoo struggles enough already; kill the consistency of its manabase and it becomes tier2 at best.
What are you talking about? Zoo is currently the most successful deck in the format.
Dragonstorm is not nearly as powerful or consistent as TEPS. I doubt it will place anywhere. Doesn't dredge lose some critical pieces?
I don't think that you realize that the format will be slowing down considerably. Dragonstorm will still be faster than any aggro deck and have the tools to beat control.
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4 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2009 - 5:09PM
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The bottom line is that the VAST majority of the top placing blue control lists are heavy on the Faeries/Wizards. Whether or not they run a Tarmogoyf is regardless. Hence, the appellation of "Faeries" to the deck name.
You might want to get your kicks calling them "NLU" for whatever reason, but that doesn't change the fact that we are both talking about the same thing: Faeries.
Stop starting pointless debates about minor variations in labels / terminology.
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4 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2009 - 5:20PM
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Date Joined:
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The bottom line is that the VAST majority of the top placing blue control lists are heavy on the Faeries/Wizards. Whether or not they run a Tarmogoyf is regardless. Hence, the appellation of "Faeries" to the deck name.
You might want to get your kicks calling them "NLU" for whatever reason, but that doesn't change the fact that we are both talking about the same thing: Faeries.
Stop starting pointless debates about minor variations in labels / terminology.
It's not just me that calls them NLU, and not every NLU deck plays Spellstutter Sprite.
Also, I didn't start the debate over the name. I simply stated that NLU will be better than Faeries post-rotation, and NLU usually refers to Blue control decks that play Tarmogoyf.
Anyways, to clarify my original statement: I think that Blue control decks with Tarmogoyf will be better than similar decks without Tarmogoyf after rotation.
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4 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2009 - 9:03PM
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Date Joined:
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Just want to mention that Bant has the ability to beat out both NLU and Fae as the top blue control deck in the format. It has at least an even matchup against both fae and NLU and it beats the heck out of rock and teps. I run wraths MD in my bant which gives me total domination over Zoo.
Bant loses nothing in Rotation where NLU and Fae lose Riptide. Fae might even have to go back to the old UB Bitterblossom version maybe to field enough threats to keep it viable in the long game that it creates without Riptide locks to lean on anymore.
Bant just owns the meta, if you dont agree you probably havent played it. One really nice feature of bant is that it is so customizeable theres really no hate one can side in against it. Bloodmoon hitting the table hurts, but thats pretty rare. Burn can sometimes get me, affinity too occasionally without side help other than that I dont lose very much at all with my bant. Ive gained almost 100 ratings points since i made the deck in MTGO for whatever thats worth to you /shrug.
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4 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2009 - 9:20PM
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Date Joined:
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M10 and Zendikar might make some completely new decks viable.
If not, maybe the rotation will allow some older decks to make a comeback? Project X, Heartbeat of Spring, Cascade hypergenesis (admittedly not very old)?
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4 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2009 - 10:08PM
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what is NLU?
i feel stupid asking but it's driving me crazy
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