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5 years ago ::
Jul 15, 2008 - 3:46PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Building on a Budget, which goes live Wednesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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5 years ago ::
Jul 15, 2008 - 9:07PM
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Aug 31, 2005
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Did you just call Flores out on the Overbeing?
That's awesome.
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5 years ago ::
Jul 15, 2008 - 9:14PM
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Not to be mean or anything but......what happened to my BoaB article?
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5 years ago ::
Jul 15, 2008 - 9:31PM
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This article seemed incredibly insubstantial. :-\
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5 years ago ::
Jul 15, 2008 - 9:51PM
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Ah this harkens me back to the early days of TheDojo. When the only Magic writing you could find was tournament reports with bad decks, few opponents, and no real point.
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5 years ago ::
Jul 15, 2008 - 10:05PM
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What happened to the "Building" part of this article?
Just terrible... Please don't do any more like this.
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5 years ago ::
Jul 15, 2008 - 10:07PM
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Well I have heard about Pack Wars, a.k.a. "Mini-Master", but I haven't gotten to play it yet. Although the next time I have some packs I would like to play a different version, called "Mindmaster", which was described in this article: http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/feature/352It looks a lot less luck oriented, and just more fun. Edit: You guys are being a little harsh. I haven't really been interested in BoaB lately, but this actually caught my attention. Getting the most out of your money by playing a game like this is a good budget-minded idea.
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5 years ago ::
Jul 15, 2008 - 10:17PM
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Oct 23, 2003
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The problem with this version of Pack Wars is that it requires basic lands in addition to booster packs.
The rules I usually use are that you just have the 15 cards from your pack. Each card can be played normally, or you can play it face down as a rainbow basic land of all 5 land types. The card (unless it's naturally a land) only counts as a land while it is in play, not in your hand, library, or graveyard. Running out of cards in your library does not deck you, but it does mean that you don't have anything more to draw.
Recently my friends and I have also been experimenting with 5 card opening hands, as this stretches libraries out for a few more turns (and since there are no true mana problems in the format, 7 cards aren't needed as badly).
I think it makes for some really interesting tension, as you have to choose whether a given card is more valuable as a land or as a spell. You also get to draw most of your pack every game, which is part of the point to playing with the cards.
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5 years ago ::
Jul 15, 2008 - 10:25PM
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Jul 16, 2008
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I will say this is the first and only post I will probably ever make on this website. I read mtg.com's articles sporadically; generally Casual Fun, Latest Developments and Building on a Budget, occasionally some of the other stuff (as long as it has nothing to do with the Pro Tour). The Ferrett is was great but unfortunately now he's gone for whatever reason. Ben is a good writer who thinks up some fun decks that are affordable. That's why I read their articles; they ignore the embarrassingly overhyped Pro Tour and don't demand I spend $120 on Mutavaults.
This article, however, was nothing short of condescending in terms of content, not to mention just how generally uninteresting it was. Frankly, it's the worst article I've seen on the site in 5-6 years of reading, and I have no idea how this was allowed to go past editors. There's a lot of problems here, but let's begin with what's bothering me most:
1) lol philosophy: "We humans, as mortals, don't have a shortage of money; we have a shortage of time. It's actually the reason why life is so beautiful."
To which I reply: Dear Mr. Nagle, I believe you have mistaken this corporate website about playing cards for MySpace. Please never return.
This kind of statement is borderline offensive for anybody who's ever had any real financial hardship. Please, please, please Wizards--never allow this kind of drivel on the site again. It's insulting to our intellect and reads patheticically.
2) BUILDING on a Budget: Well, Nagle got one part of the name out of two. Yes, this is a Budget format. But what the hell happened to Building? Read the following:
"To maximize suspense, we don't look at our boosters as we shuffle our decks, which makes the discovery of your uncommons, rare, and perhaps foil all the more exhilarating!"
Deckbuilding indeed. Budget? Sure, I guess. Building? Nothing to be found here. Why isn't this a Serious Fun column? It seems like it would have been a better fit there. I'm all for alternative formats but that doesn't feel like Building on a Budget format, especially when part of the goal of the format is to NOT BUILD A DECK.
I'd write more but I already jumped through the stupid hoops just to sign up for 'Gleemax' so I would write this. This is probably the only communique with the WotC community (and potentially staff) I will ever have. I'd just a shame it was because something was so unnervingly low quality it stirred me into action. Sure, this website is free, so technically I've lost little aside form time (omg shortage of time/money/whatever), but to me this represents a HUGE slip in the quality of the column.
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5 years ago ::
Jul 15, 2008 - 11:30PM
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While I agree that this article may not exactly fall within the parameters of the BoaB column, I got some use out of it. I only play Magic online, so I've never run across the pack war format before. If Wizards is seriously trying to target new players, then I would expect to see more articles like this. And frankly, I'm perfectly fine with that.
I would love to be able to play pack war online. This way I'd have another option of something to do with my unopened packs other than hitting the draft queues, and I wouldn't end up passing someone the rares I opened for a 20th copy of Power of Fire :D
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