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5 years ago ::
Sep 19, 2008 - 2:54AM
#21
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Date Joined:
Feb 11, 2007
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generals are immune to the legendary rules, so copying a general with spitting image is just pitching a land and wasting mana for nothing. Your copy will die, the general will remain. Definitely a staple card nonetheless.
Cards like mind's eye are much more powerful repeated card draw sources (or planar portal, jace beleren, etc) than what you listed. Oona's grace in particular is a bad edh card - unless you have journeyer's kite, land tax, or thawing glaciers active, of course. You don't want to be missing land drops at any point in the game, really.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 19, 2008 - 9:18AM
#22
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Aug 21, 2009
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I would like to make the case to add Heartseeker to this list. It is colorless so any deck can run it, and it is reusable creature removal which makes it efficient. I also promise that I will be running Reap and Sow in every EDH deck I run that can run green mana. It destroys problematic lands from your oponent, lets you search your library for ANY land AND put it into play UNTAPPED...or it can do both at once! Chimeric Egg is also A) an artifact and B) potentially powerful. Not 100% convinced, but Reiver Demon seems really good in a mono-black/predominantly black EDH deck.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 19, 2008 - 10:01AM
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Date Joined:
Feb 11, 2007
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reiver demon is good, but since edh decks seem to average 3 colors, 3/5ths of the field will have creatures he won't destroy. He's better than a lot of things I've seen played, but I'm not sure I'd call it a staple. Chimeric egg...meh. Heartseeker...also meh. 9 mana and tap one of your guys makes it pretty clumsy and slow. Even by edh standards, it's slow. Not a bad card, mind you, I'm just not sure I'd recommend it for most decks than can support it, which is my definition of a staple. reap and sow is a good call though, definitely belongs on the list. LD as a whole is excessively avoided I think. The noob-heat it draws is a price worth paying to be able to answer thawing glaciers and academy ruins, among other things. Also, woodfall primus is a new bomb fatty, worthy of being mentioned alongside bogardan hellkite, angel of despair, and the like.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 19, 2008 - 10:38AM
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Jul 17, 2008
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generals are immune to the legendary rules, so copying a general with spitting image is just pitching a land and wasting mana for nothing. Your copy will die, the general will remain. Definitely a staple card nonetheless. Only online. In regular EDH matches, Legend rule applies.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 20, 2008 - 11:12AM
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I'd have to agree on Spitting Image : "Spitting Image a Verdant Force . Do it again...and again...and again." Also, works well with Journeyer's Kite . Additionally, I've found Predator, Flagship to be fun. Evolution Vat can make a REALLY big fatty REALLY fast (I had a 4018/4020 Seedborn Muse once), and Novijen, Heart of Progress is also a fun card, especially when you combo it with Woodfall Primus to essentially rootgrapple nigh infinitely (well, not infinitely, but definitely hard to kill).
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5 years ago ::
Sep 21, 2008 - 10:51AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 30, 2007
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Off the top of my head...
Cards I think deserve to be on the list: hibernation's end , aeon chronicler , twilight shepherd , return to dust , murkfiend liege , dismantling blow , decree of justice , hallowed burial , sacred mesa , mobilization , kjeldoran outpost , temple of the false god , akroma's vengeance , magus of the disk , mirari's wake , shattering spree , prison term , spin into myth , spitting image
cards I'm not so sure can be called 'staples': oblivion ring , prismatic omen , dust elemental , rage reflection , phyrexian rager , jhoira of the ghitu , wound reflection I have yet to go to an edh gathering and NOT see a Jhoira deck there. I would say she's a staple.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 21, 2008 - 1:09PM
#27
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Date Joined:
Mar 30, 2004
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Only online. In regular EDH matches, Legend rule applies. Online/offline makes no difference...
There is only one set of rules for EDH. Either you are using league play and no-one else has a copy of your General or else you are using Open play and Generals are unaffected by the legendary rule.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 21, 2008 - 1:10PM
#28
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Date Joined:
Jul 17, 2008
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Staples are cards you put in EDH decks - NOT generals. Jhoira is a good general, but a bad card to just jam into your deck.
@Conall: I recommend reading the EDH rules. Generals do not have some special exemption from the Legend rule.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 21, 2008 - 1:11PM
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Date Joined:
Mar 30, 2004
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I have yet to go to an edh gathering and NOT see a Jhoira deck there. I would say she's a staple. That just means that Jhoria is used as a General a lot.
A staple is a card that you want to include in a deck and not every / deck is going to want to use Jhoria as a creature.
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5 years ago ::
Sep 21, 2008 - 1:51PM
#30
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Date Joined:
Mar 10, 2008
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A casual format is a casual format. If groups play IRL where Generals are immune to the Legend rule, so be it. The Online Commander format makes generals immune to the Legend rule as a convienence; imposing deckbuilding restrictions based on your opponent's deck is ludacrious. What if, in Standard, if your opponent had 4 Cancel in his deck, then you couldn't play Cancel too? Legend immunity for generals I feel is the superior rule in all cases, anyway.
Kenneth Nagle Game Designer Wizards of the Coast
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