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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 12:59AM
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Hello everyone. I "rerolled" from Standard to Extended some time last season. Reason for this was my deep-set hatred towards Lorwyn and its tribal decks. I was pleasantly surprised to discover a format with many very different decks and most importantly many different deck types. Sure, you had the usual primitive and boring decks like Burn, but there were also decks like Dredge, Tings, Teps, Death Cloud, NLU and so forth. I am thus recently new to the format, but this season has been terribly boring in my opinion. First we had the extremely obnoxious Grapeshot Elves, that while easily hated, required main decks and sideboards to adapt. This opened up for even more domination by the resident menace to sanity, Faeries. A deck based around sticking abilities to Flash creatures (no comment). As Faeries rose to domination decks like Death Cloud and Domain Zoo found their place in the meta. Death Cloud became even more ponderous with the inclusion of the Loam engine, and Domain Zoo became more disruptive including spells and creatures that was... well, very disruptive as opposed to simply aggro cards. Death Cloud later had to concede to Faeries and adapt even further to its current form, BitterLoam, a deck that's succesful mostly because of its good Faeries matchup. While all this went on people still played their "budget" decks like Affinity and Burn with varying success. At some point a few players realized that people had stocked up on sideboard hate for Elves and Faeries and on came a new and superior TEPS build, that once again managed to mess everything up for a short while. Now it seems that we have returned to a particularly boring status quo as best shown by this PTQ: http://www.deckcheck.net/event.php?even … nd+%2F+USAA top 8 comprised of 4xDomain Zoo, 3xFaeries and a deck that is basically a mix between the two. My question is thus (and this is directed at the more experienced players). Do you see the current season changing significantly at some point or will it just be more of the Zoo and Faeries are the best decks, but once in a while a new/old combo deck can show up and win a couple of games when they no longer get targeted by hate? I only ask as I really miss the feel I initially got when I started playing Extended. Sure, you had a monster like Dredge, but more often than not it actually never won, but rather took up enough sideboard hate to keep many different decks competitive and the meta fresh (well, at least until NLU was perfected).
They see me trollin', they hatin'. Only 31.0% of the playerbase actually prefers Standard to the other formats, yet it is the format that gets the most attention. PATHETIC. If you had millions of loyal customers who adore and admire you, and you could raise your middle finger at them, wouldn't you? **** YOU TOO, WIZARDS.  You are Red/Blue! Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today!Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.You are both rational and emotional. You value creation and discovery, and feel strongly about what you create. At best, you're innovative and intuitive. At worst, you're scattered and unpredictable.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 8:11AM
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I think this is the best extended season ever, you don't have the unfathomably tedious, homicide-provoking, sensei's divingtop to make your blood boil (best banning ever) and the ridiculously stupid dredge turn 2 kills to deal with.
Elves doesn't bother me nearly as much as dredge, elves is disrupted by removal, every deck has removal, and therefore every deck has at least a fighting chance, not so much as with dredge.
Zoo hasn't been truly top tier this season, as it struggles against Burn, Faeries, and TEPS. Its recent uptick maybe shortlived. A properly built Deathcloud loam deck could probably crush a field of faeries and zoo, the format is pretty diverse, but if you really hate faeries/wizards you might be turned off, because faeries is pretty much the best deck in the format and will likely top 8 in most events.
Also Bant isn't zoo faeries hybrid, it is more like GW haterator updated, basically a ton of hate cards thrown together in a deck and you just hope and pray you draw the correct ones.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 1:33PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 10, 2007
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i really like this season and would be happy to take almost every deck in the format to a PTQ
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4 years ago ::
Feb 25, 2009 - 9:57PM
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Date Joined:
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I think this is the best extended season ever, you don't have the unfathomably tedious, homicide-provoking, sensei's divingtop to make your blood boil (best banning ever) and the ridiculously stupid dredge turn 2 kills to deal with.
Elves doesn't bother me nearly as much as dredge, elves is disrupted by removal, every deck has removal, and therefore every deck has at least a fighting chance, not so much as with dredge.
Zoo hasn't been truly top tier this season, as it struggles against Burn, Faeries, and TEPS. Its recent uptick maybe shortlived. A properly built Deathcloud loam deck could probably crush a field of faeries and zoo, the format is pretty diverse, but if you really hate faeries/wizards you might be turned off, because faeries is pretty much the best deck in the format and will likely top 8 in most events.
Also Bant isn't zoo faeries hybrid, it is more like GW haterator updated, basically a ton of hate cards thrown together in a deck and you just hope and pray you draw the correct ones.
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Last seasons combo deck needed the same dedicated hate but you had to run graveyard hate which was only good against it and loam. You also autolost game 1 if you didn't run a way to get rid of bridge.
Worse as a fan I am of top in last extended it practically red: Play top, add 5-10 minutes to the game.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 1:32PM
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Date Joined:
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Correction: Only one of those lists can be considered Domain Zoo. The others are RGW and are a totally different deck in themselves.
I absolutely love extended this season. Perfect balance of control, aggro, and combo.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 6:43PM
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Correction: Only one of those lists can be considered Domain Zoo. The others are RGW and are a totally different deck in themselves.
I absolutely love extended this season. Perfect balance of control, aggro, and combo.
QFT. Wizards has intentionally or unintentionally made Extended one of the best Constructed formats in a long time. Almost any deck is viable provided that you have the skill and dedication to practice. (Wr Kithkin made top 8 at a PTQ, last season, and if that isn't enough too prove how diverse Extended is right now, then I don't know what is)
One of the reasons Faeries remains popular is that most of the good players from the Standard and Block season found it easy to adapt to Extended Faeries.
 I am Blue/Green
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4 years ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 7:13PM
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Date Joined:
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Yes, this extended format is excellent. When Onslaught rotates, Top could be unbanned and my fave card would be back, but far less powerful.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 7:37PM
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Date Joined:
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I like the decks this season. My only complaint is that Fetchlands are still legal.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 26, 2009 - 11:31PM
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Date Joined:
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Correction: Only one of those lists can be considered Domain Zoo. The others are RGW and are a totally different deck in themselves.
I absolutely love extended this season. Perfect balance of control, aggro, and combo.
I never checked the actual lists. If you want to correct someone then by all means write a complaint to deckcheck.net (though they have actually changed the names to Naya Deck Wins/RGW/Naya Aggro/I Need to Make My Own Name Instead of Using the Regular One(s)). In any case it's not like we are talking about a combo and a control decks. Both decks have the best creatures in their colours and burn spells.
All in all it seems that people are extremely pleased with the new season, so guess it's just me, I just really miss certain decks like Rock and Flow, CAL and Tings (:weep . Anyway, (almost) noone bothered making a reply to my actual question, so I'll repeat it here; do you see the meta changing vastly at some point, or is it simply more or less frozen now and we'll only see waxing and waning of the various decks in the meta?
They see me trollin', they hatin'. Only 31.0% of the playerbase actually prefers Standard to the other formats, yet it is the format that gets the most attention. PATHETIC. If you had millions of loyal customers who adore and admire you, and you could raise your middle finger at them, wouldn't you? **** YOU TOO, WIZARDS. You are Red/Blue! Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today!Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.You are both rational and emotional. You value creation and discovery, and feel strongly about what you create. At best, you're innovative and intuitive. At worst, you're scattered and unpredictable.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 27, 2009 - 5:34AM
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I never checked the actual lists. If you want to correct someone then by all means write a complaint to deckcheck.net (though they have actually changed the names to Naya Deck Wins/RGW/Naya Aggro/I Need to Make My Own Name Instead of Using the Regular One(s)). In any case it's not like we are talking about a combo and a control decks. Both decks have the best creatures in their colours and burn spells.
All in all it seems that people are extremely pleased with the new season, so guess it's just me, I just really miss certain decks like Rock and Flow, CAL and Tings (:weep. Anyway, (almost) noone bothered making a reply to my actual question, so I'll repeat it here; do you see the meta changing vastly at some point, or is it simply more or less frozen now and we'll only see waxing and waning of the various decks in the meta?
Well, as always, it will probably stir up after the next sets, but maybe not. And even though I like this season, I DO miss last one, I think we lost a lot of variety.
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