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2 years ago ::
May 09, 2008 - 5:35PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Making Magic, which goes live Monday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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2 years ago ::
May 11, 2008 - 9:11PM
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I'm pretty sure the scale you're referring to, MaRo, is Kohlberg's theory of moral reasoning. It's a 6 stage, 3 category (self-interest, social comparison, and a Kant-esque univserality) series of development which individuals are supposed to progress through. Stages 5 and 6, however, are rarely if ever attained.
woots for psych degrees ^_^
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2 years ago ::
May 11, 2008 - 9:13PM
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Rats! Someone beat me to it! Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohlberg's_stages_of_moral_development Nice article, btw. 
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2 years ago ::
May 11, 2008 - 9:19PM
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Bill, welcome to the team! Always a pleasure to work with you.
And congrats to Scott for all his hard work on this site and the ensuing promotion.
Lee Sharpe
Data Analyst
Wizards of the Coast
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2 years ago ::
May 11, 2008 - 9:47PM
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- YMtC Champion
- Ceci n'est pas une porte
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Mark. Please do:
MORE articles like this one.
LESS articles where you talk to your own foot. (With or without sock.)
(I'm a hard core Melvin though, so you should probably ignore me.)
:>
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2 years ago ::
May 11, 2008 - 9:54PM
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Mark. Please do:
MORE articles like this one.
LESS articles where you talk to your own foot. (With or without sock.)
(I'm a hard core Melvin though, so you should probably ignore me.)
:>
This.
Though I'm more of a vorthos.
Also congrats to Scott on the promotion.
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2 years ago ::
May 11, 2008 - 9:58PM
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I'm pretty sure the scale you're referring to, MaRo, is Kohlberg's theory of moral reasoning. It's a 6 stage, 3 category (self-interest, social comparison, and a Kant-esque univserality) series of development which individuals are supposed to progress through.
That's what I thought he meant too. But I don't recall a "stage zero." Was it likely just referring to an anarchistic behavior with no identifiable morality?
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2 years ago ::
May 11, 2008 - 10:09PM
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I'm pretty sure the scale you're referring to, MaRo, is Kohlberg's theory of moral reasoning. It's a 6 stage, 3 category (self-interest, social comparison, and a Kant-esque univserality) series of development which individuals are supposed to progress through. Stages 5 and 6, however, are rarely if ever attained.
woots for psych degrees ^_^
As a psych major, wouldn't you agree that the scale is seriously flawed? Just look at the Milgram experiments; 66% of the population is stuck at level 1 when faced with what they perceive to be a legitimate institutional mandate.
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2 years ago ::
May 11, 2008 - 10:41PM
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As a psych major, wouldn't you agree that the scale is seriously flawed? Just look at the Milgram experiments; 66% of the population is stuck at level 1 when faced with what they perceive to be a legitimate institutional mandate.
Hmm. Well I wasn't a psych major, and I do think Kohlberg's scale is potentially flawed. However, I'd put them at level 3 - living up to expectations. The subjects were never threatened with punishment, merely told how essential their participation was. And I believe the theory says that the bulk of the population should be at lower levels.
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2 years ago ::
May 11, 2008 - 10:45PM
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I definitely agree that it's flawed, but not because of the Milgram experiment. I think that experiment just exhibited a natural phenomenon independent of morality.
The reason I think it is flawed is because the 3/4 stages ("how would someone else view this behavior" and "how does this fit into societal laws and mores") can be justified as a higher moral behavior than the 5/6 stages ("what type of ideal does this incarnate" and "is this universally right in all circumstances for all individuals"). In Western societies 5/6 stages are the epitome of moral understanding, true, but what about more socially aware cultures are better represented by the 3/4 stages than the 5/6 ones.
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