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5 years ago ::
May 19, 2008 - 3:26PM
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Date Joined:
May 19, 2008
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hey everyone! new to the forums and the game of magic. After using a few friends decks for a few months I recently bought a bunch of cards and I'm working on my first deck. i found some amazing creature destruction in my cards with: Simulacrum  Gaze of the Gorgon  Walking Desecration  As for kill cards I'm looking at: Gempalm Polluter  Soul Burn  basically i want the deck to play heavy creature control while i cause players direct damage. ideally as i'm busy controlling or destroying creatures i wanna be nicking away at there life totals. also because of gempalm, i need most, if not all zombie creatures. I do have a card called pestilence  but I dont like the idea of my life and creatures being affected. but i thought about that card as well to replace gempalm. I was hopeing to keep this deck pure black.
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5 years ago ::
May 19, 2008 - 5:39PM
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Date Joined:
Mar 15, 2008
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Hi In terms of creature you want to be using cheap spells otherwise you will be overwhelemed before you can use them. To this end cards like Terror  and Nameless Inversion  are good. If you want to be dealing damage to them at the same time then a trerror effect attached to a creature is powerful, cards like Shriekmaw  and Nekrataal  (No idea if the spelling of nekrataal is right). A good finisher is Corupt  and for creature control its younger brother tendrils of Corruption  . Aside from this I won't make your deck for you, if you want more comments then I suggest posting a list and people will edit it and suggest new cards.
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5 years ago ::
May 19, 2008 - 7:29PM
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Date Joined:
Mar 25, 2008
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5 years ago ::
May 20, 2008 - 4:06AM
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Date Joined:
May 19, 2008
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A buddy of mine pointed out that simulacrum  wont work with Gaze of the Gorgon because gaze only destroys creatures that "blocked or were blocked by" and simulacrum only diverts the damage, so the creature didn't block , therefore no mass destruction >_< please tell me he's wrong. as for other cards infectious host  to use simulacrum on gemstone array  seems like it will help make kills w/ soul burn  as well as make things a bit more affordable i'm thinking about vengeful dead  but im not sure if its worth it. thanks for the input, ill be looking for some cheap destruction and then ill post what i come up with :D
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5 years ago ::
May 20, 2008 - 4:52AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 30, 2004
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I am not sure what kind of combo you think exist between Gaze and Simulacrum.
You cast Gaze at one of your own creatures (which regenerates right then) and then Gaze destroy all the creatures blocked/blocking that particular creature.
Simulacrum allows you to "transfer" damage from yourself to a creature you control. You could use the gaze to save the creature you hurt with the simulacrum, but transfering damage from you to a creature does not make it blocking or blocked and thus there is no interaction apart from regeneration thing. So your friend is right
Try creating a complete deck, its easier to help you then.
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5 years ago ::
May 20, 2008 - 3:12PM
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Date Joined:
May 19, 2008
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Alright, I've realized that in an effort to keep 2 kill cards i was actually hurting the deck, so I cut gempalm and im moving away from zombie creatures (if i have to). I also have the need for green in this deck now, but im still trying to avoid any more non-black the deck is no where near done, but here's what i have so far: Artifacts: 3x Gemstone Array  Instants: 3x Burnt Offering  3x Cabal Ritual  i figure this deck will hit threshhold easily, making these a better choice than dark rit's, 3x Simulacrum 3x Gaze of the Gorgon 2x Sudden Death  1x Last Gasp  Sorcery: 4x Soul Burn Enchantment: 1x Seal of Doom  Creatures: 2x Mortipede  I have 4 of them but I'm trying to limit non-black, as i wont get that mana from land 3x Walking desecration  4x Infectious Host  I am looking for a second way to kill, Gempalm was my secondary but if anyone has a better idea let me know,
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5 years ago ::
May 20, 2008 - 7:49PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 11, 2006
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I would take out the gemstone, burnt offering, cabal ritual, soul burn, mortipede, and the walking descetration. I would replace cabal ritual with dark ritual  which is better in most all cases. When you can drop a hypnotic specter  turn one, it is a heck of a lot better. It looks like you're going with a genocide type black deck. I would consider mutilate  and pestilence . I'm don't typically play black so I can't really give you pointers on creatures to use. You might want to consider splashing white for swords to plowshares  and vindicate  , which are probably the best creature removal in the game. It's not terribly difficult to splash another color. If you have the budget, pain lands from ravnica are really good. Godless Shrine  would be wonderful if you did splash white. I hope any of this helps you.
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5 years ago ::
May 21, 2008 - 4:12AM
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Date Joined:
May 19, 2008
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hypnotic specter with dark ritual turn 1 does sound appealing, but i don't have hypnotic specter (at least not yet) Though i didn't want to include Pestilence, it seems like much more bang for my buck. and i just happen to have a play set in this pile of cards. im not willing to eliminate soul burn just yet. and I'm still trying to keep the deck mono colored. Enchantments: 4x Pestilence  2x Paralyze  for the creatures i cant kill 1x Seal of Doom Sorcery's: 4x Soul Burn life gain, creature control, and a possible kill card, for now it stays, until i get Corupt 2x Ashes to Ashes  damn good creature removal and i got Simulacrum to alleviate the pain of using it if i need to 2x unburden  Instants: 1x Last Gasp 2x sudden death  3x simulacrum eventually ill get a 4th one of these 2x Cabal Ritual Creatures: (need some help here) trying to stay mono, so ill need regenerating creatures. these are just the ones I have. I'm looking for black or colorless protection from black, if it exists. 1x restless dead  2x drudge skeletons  3x unworthy dead  4x Infectious host  most likely to be removed for Shriekmaw Cards I don't have yet (ps: about how much will these cost?): 4x Mutilate  2x Dark Ritual  ok ok, I'll meet you half way :D 1x Simulacrum 4x Shriekmaw 4x Corrupt  to replace soul burn
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5 years ago ::
May 21, 2008 - 7:44AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 30, 2004
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The question of Dark Ritual versus Cabal is really a question of when you want to accelerate. IF your goal is a early game head start then clearly go with Dark Ritual, if the purpose is a huge finisher then go with cabal. When do you want accel, in the beginning then go with 4 dark, in the end game, go with 4 cabals... If you want endgame shenaningans I might reccommend consume spirit  Also I think you overvalue Simulacrum. Rather have some damage spells than that I say. Generally sacrificing board position for tempoary respite is a bad deal. Much better to stop the creature hurting you than preventing its effect for a turn by further reducing your ability to defend your self. let it go for a full set of last gasp. Also your focus on weak regenerators weaken your plan. You are an evil mage, you shouldn't be so afraid of hurting yourself, your creatures or anything else for that matter. may I reccommend you take a look at the flavor tekst of dark confidant  . Thats what Black is all about. Also note this necropotence  . This is probbly the most powerfull non-blue, non artifact card in magic*. Black shouldn't protect itself. Black Converts is happy turning useless vitality into cards and other advantages. *ok at least top 3
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5 years ago ::
May 22, 2008 - 6:17PM
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Date Joined:
May 19, 2008
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Latest update Enchantments: 4x Pestilence 2x Paralyze 1x Seal of Doom 2x Strands of Undeath  Sorcerey’s: 4x Consume Spirit  2x Ashes to Ashes Instants: 2x Sudden Death 2x Cabal Ritual 2x Dark Ritual 4x Terror  4x Last Gasp Creatures: 4x Shriekmaw im still trying to find good creatures to help the deck.
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