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Switch to Forum Live View Just a few newbie questions....
5 years ago  ::  Mar 15, 2008 - 8:37PM #11
rudolf
Date Joined: Sep 17, 2005
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Gerdef wrote:

However, the text stating " is indestructible" is an ability.


Bleedingcowz wrote:

Soif i Ovinize DKCOlossus then it still is indestructible?


Ovinize will remove the "Darksteel Colossus is Indestructible" ability from Darksteel Colossus

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 15, 2008 - 8:37PM #12
alzmty1980
Date Joined: Mar 4, 2008
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OWN wrote:

Just to let you know, putting [noparse][/noparse] around the section from another poster makes your responses much easier to read. And if you click on the quote button from the post you're responding to, it'll happen automatically.


Thanks, I try to play around on here as much as I can so hopefully soon I will have all the little nuonces down

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 15, 2008 - 9:28PM #13
Bleedingcowz
Date Joined: Apr 10, 2007
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Feigel wrote:

No.

It loses the "Darksteel Colossus is Indestructible." ability.
Thus, it's not Indestructible.


Sorry i was confused with what your first post said, and also thanks.
Oh and i mispelled DKC.
Another question: How does Vesuvan Shapeshifter really work, because i'm confused when i copy a creature with morph that has a when this gets turned face up ability. Can anyone shed some light on this?

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 15, 2008 - 9:31PM #14
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It is being turned face-up as a Copy of that Creature.

Thus, any Triggered ability that Triggers when it is turned face-up will trigger, or any Replacement that applies when its Turned face-up will be applicable.
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 16, 2008 - 1:09AM #15
Bleedingcowz
Date Joined: Apr 10, 2007
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How does it combo Brine Elemental then? Because also some guyz said you can do that but i just don't know how...
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 16, 2008 - 1:20AM #16
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Bleedingcowz wrote:

How does it combo Brine Elemental then? Because also some guyz said you can do that but i just don't know how...


Didn't Feigel just explain that? You turn the Vesuvan Shapeshifter up copying a Brine Elemental. That will trigger the "When this is turned face-up" trigger that the Shapeshifter is copying from the Brine Elemental. That's really all there is to it.

(If you're wondering what the advantage is over just turning the Elemental itself face-up, that's not a rules question, but here's a hint: How expensive is it to turn Brine Elemental face-up and how often can you do it? How expensive is it to turn Vesuvan Shapeshifter face-up and how often can you do it?)

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 16, 2008 - 1:38AM #17
Bleedingcowz
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Oh! i'm sorry, i thought that when Vesuvan Shapeshifter turns up it copies the Brine Elemental and nothing will trigger because it is already face up. Well that settles that then. Thanks too.
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 16, 2008 - 3:39AM #18
useless_kodama
Date Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Bleedingcowz wrote:

Oh! i'm sorry, i thought that when Vesuvan Shapeshifter turns up it copies the Brine Elemental and nothing will trigger because it is already face up. Well that settles that then. Thanks too.


The difference is that the Shapeshifter becomes a copy "as it turns face-up" (a replacement effect), rather than "when it turns face-up" (a triggered ability). Thus it gets the copied ability in time for it to trigger.

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