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5 years ago  ::  Mar 15, 2008 - 10:58PM #1
Game_Addy
Date Joined: Apr 6, 2005
Posts: 254
Hello all, I have a question regarding cards such as Barbarian Ring . Ruling 203.2b states

Ruling 203.2b]Objects with no colored mana symbols in their mana costs are colorless.


Thus lands are(unless otherwise specified) colorless. I couldn't find any rules which would change the color of Barbarian Ring when it is sacrificed(checked under Activated Effects, Colors, and in the Glossary of the Comp. Rules).

[s]Thus I ask: When I sacrifice Barbarian Ring , is the damage dealt colorless, thus getting around cards which have Protection: Color? Likewise, would cards such as Armorer Guildmage be unable to power up a Pro: Red creature because the card itself is red, a pro: Green creature because the ability requires , or neither because the colors are cumulative?
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Objects with no colored mana symbols in their mana costs are colorless.[/quote]
Thus lands are(unless otherwise specified) colorless. I couldn't find any rules which would change the color of Barbarian Ring when it is sacrificed(checked under Activated Effects, Colors, and in the Glossary of the Comp. Rules).

[s]Thus I ask: When I sacrifice Barbarian Ring , is the damage dealt colorless, thus getting around cards which have Protection: Color? Likewise, would cards such as Armorer Guildmage be unable to power up a Pro: Red creature because the card itself is red, a pro: Green creature because the ability requires , or neither because the colors are cumulative?
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Ruling 502.7b]A permanent or player with protection can’ wrote:

A permanent or player with protection can’t be targeted by spells with the stated quality and can’t be targeted by abilities from a source with the stated quality.


But this would lead to another question: Is the source the card, or the ability?

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 15, 2008 - 11:01PM #2
Jab0r
Date Joined: Sep 7, 2006
Posts: 2,160
Yes, lands are colourless (unless an effect specifies otherwise).

Abilities don't have a colour - Protection stops abilities from sources with a certain characteristic. Hence Armorer Guildmage can't affect creatures with Pro: Red, but can affect creatures with Pro: Black or Pro: Green, with either ability.

When you sac Barbarian Ring, the damage is dealt by a colourless source, so bypasses Pro: Red and Circles of Protection.
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 15, 2008 - 11:04PM #3
Feigel
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2007
Posts: 9,054

Jab0r wrote:

Protection stops abilities from sources with a certain characteristic from targeting the Object/Player with Protection. Hence Armorer Guildmage can't [s][color=black]affect Target[/color] creatures with Pro: Red,


Fixed.

If an Object has an ability that does not try to Damage, Enchant/Equip/fortify, Block, Target an Object/Player, then it CAN 'affect' and Object /Player with Protection [DEBT].

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