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SJUD wrote:

My playgroup is putting together a gauntlet of the top decks and I'm wondering your opinion on 3 or 4 Standstills and counterbalance. Is there a meta where the numbers should be different? I see lists with 3/3 3/4 4/3 4/4 of Standstill and CB.

If your just looking for a basic shell, would use 4/4 Factory/Standstill and usually 3/2 CB/Top. would use 3/3 Factory/Standstill and it'
s really up to the player but normally 3/2 or 4/3 CB/Top. Those two card slots interchange pretty well.

If you expect to see a lot of combo you should probably go with 4/3 CB/Top as standstill does not help very much against this kind of decks unless it hits the board on second turn and they didn't resolve any threats before then, but even then you normally want to keep mana open against combo unless you can drop a CB.

In a more aggro based meta either CB/Top or Factory/Standstill can be useful. A second turn Factory into Standstill can hold off their first turn creature and forces them to break the Still, and a Force to a Vial forces them to play cards so CB/Top can be really useful.

In a more control oriented meta definitely go 4/3 CB/Top and 3/3 Factory/Still because you will be siding out Still every game two and CB/Top will help you counter their counters and normally most of their threats. For instance, a resolved CB/Top shuts down the Dreadnought/Stifle plan for this deck, CB can even trigger with Trickbind on the stack.

For my build I'm working on now I'm playing 3/3 Factory/Still and 4/3 CB/Top, if that helps you at all.

SJUD wrote:

I agree that Daze seemed subpar as he would just play into Daze to force the tempo loss. How do you feel about adding a fourth Spell Snare and some Fire/Ice to kill Sower, win Goyf wars, more ways to kill Factorys.

I want more reach in this deck but I'm not sure the inclusions of cards like Lightning Bolt or Fire // Ice are worth the cards you would be taking out considering the fact that they would only show up every once in a while and seem situational to an extent. I can't say for sure because I have not tested them yet but there have been a few decks that have used them to some good. Fire/Bolt do seem good to some extents.... needs moar testing.

I would love a 4th Snare as that card is great but I think it might be too many or you would have to change the counter suit (probably for the worse) to fit it in.

back to four goyf. good job :D