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4 years ago ::
Mar 14, 2009 - 10:30AM
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I usually ran ESG to put out root maze  + ape or elite in the same turn. More of a control-ish sort of approach. I'm not sure how good root maze is in this format though. ESG is really just for acceleration, and I'm not sure if its needed in this format. Magus of the moon might even be helpful. PoP still works even under blood moon effects, so it could act like a 1-2 punch.
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4 years ago ::
Mar 14, 2009 - 3:42PM
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;18079603']I usually ran ESG to put out root maze + ape or elite in the same turn. More of a control-ish sort of approach. I'm not sure how good root maze is in this format though.
ESG is really just for acceleration, and I'm not sure if its needed in this format.
Magus of the moon might even be helpful. PoP still works even under blood moon effects, so it could act like a 1-2 punch.
Yeah, Root Maze isn't really all that good in Legacy.
On a different note, is there anything anybody would like me to add to the primer? I think I have most of the major matchups covered except Landstill, which I haven't been able to test against yet. Anyone have results for this matchup?
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4 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2009 - 1:50PM
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Bumping this because it needs to be on the first page. A recent PM got me thinking about RG again.
Are there any lists that run a more RG Beats approach, with more creatures?
I threw something together that uses a more creature based strategy. I'm not sure it would still be considered "Gofy Sligh" though, since a lot of the Sligh elements have been removed.
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Taiga
4 Wasteland
4 Forest
4 Mountain
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Wild Mongrel
4 Basking Rootwalla
4 Kird Ape
4 Grim Lavamancer/Mogg Fanatic
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Incinerate/Chain Lightning
4 Magma Jet
4 Rancor
4 Naturalize/Seal of Primordium/More Burn
Maybe to spark some more discussion about the deck...
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4 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2009 - 2:10PM
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For that list, I would actually play both Grim Lavamancer and Mogg Fanatic and just cut the Naturalize/Seal of Primordium/More Burn. My reasoning is that they are both must-plays and you want plenty of creatures for Rancor anyways.
Also, Chain Lightning is better than Incinerate.
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4 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2009 - 3:27PM
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^^ Ok, all that makes sense. Is magma jet better than incinerate? Damage VS card selection. Has anyone considered fire  in place of magma jet or incinerate?
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4 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2009 - 3:43PM
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Ok, all that makes sense.
Is magma jet better than incinerate? Damage VS card selection.
Has anyone considered fire in place of magma jet or incinerate?
The scry really is invaluable. As I'm sure you now, bad topdecks can just kill you.
Hmm. I could see Fire//Ice being played in the right metagame. In general, though, I prefer Jet.
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4 years ago ::
Apr 07, 2009 - 3:55PM
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The scry really is invaluable. As I'm sure you now, bad topdecks can just kill you.
Hmm. I could see Fire//Ice being played in the right metagame. In general, though, I prefer Jet.
Yeah, drawing that 4th land in a row kinda blows. BUT I put mongrel in there for that reason. He eats bad topdecks and poops them on your opponent's front lawn.
I like fire/ice in a gobbo metagame, since it can potentially kill 2 gobbos in one go. And it can still hit that piledriver. However, outside of that I'm not sure it is much better in the "2 mana for 2 damage" slot.
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4 years ago ::
Apr 08, 2009 - 7:01PM
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I see your point about Wild Mongrel (I've forgotten how much I love playing with that card), but I still think that Magma Jet is necessary.
Fire//Ice also seems good against Elves (which is more prevalent than you would think). It will almost always be able to hit two creatures. Other than Elves and Goblins, though, Fire//Ice isn't really better than Jet against anything.
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4 years ago ::
Apr 09, 2009 - 8:32PM
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I wouldn't be hating on Burning Tree Shaman  since it is rather strong against Top. "I'll top, ow. Top, ow. Top, ow." Also figure of destiny is awesome but probably not a 4of in the deck. I haven't really tested it yet. Also, a list that splashes for nacatl, helix, and teeg, etc is not really RGW Zoo. I think it deserves to be in this thread. RGW Zoo implies more creatures. Here is my list right now, tell me what you think: CREATURES (20) 4 Grim Lavamancer 4 Kird Ape 4 Wild Nacatl 4 Tarmogoyf 4 Mogg Fanatic BURN (20) 3 Fireblast 4 Lightning Bolt 4 Chain Lightning 4 Magma Jet 3 Price of Progress 2 Lightning Helix LAND (20) 4 Bloodstained Mire 4 Wooded Foothills 4 Taiga 3 Plateau 1 Forest 4 Mountain SIDEBOARD (15) 3 Choke 3 Krosan Grip 3 Tormod's Crypt 3 Vexing Shusher 3 Gaddock Teeg
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4 years ago ::
May 09, 2009 - 6:00AM
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Sorry for bumping this old topic. I heard of a recent sanctioned tournament, which was won by a Goyf Sligh that had Flame Burst  and Hellspark Elemental  . Especially the Elemental, I think, could be an interesting contribution to this deck. Thoughts?
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So the next time someone says Competitive Constructed decks are not the only decks that count in Constructed (Casual Constructed), then I can gleefully point to the definition set forth by WotC and say that Competitive Constructed is in deed the only ones that count, and that they are playing some irregular form of Magic.
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One with Nothing  : Alright! We got it now.
What happened to the really fun cards? Well you see a long long time ago the earth was ruled by dinosaurs. They were big so not a lot of people went around hassling them. Then a giant meteorite struck the earth, good bye dinosaurs. But what if the dinosaurs weren't all destroyed? What if the impact of that meteorite created a parallel dimension where the dinosaurs continue to thrive and evolve into intelligent vicious aggressive beings? What if they found a way back? ....wait that's not what happened to the fun cards that's the intro to the mario brothers movie. Get those two confused all the time, my bad.
It's a folllow-up on the Priceless Treasures, Deadly Perils idea. See, what happened was, you got the packs that the Eldrazi had already gotten to--the had annihilated everything but the land itself.
In fall, expect to open some packs and find cards covered in goopy, black oil.
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