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3 years ago ::
Dec 23, 2009 - 9:21PM
#51
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Date Joined:
Sep 19, 2006
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Twin and I believe we have reached an optimal "Supreme Blue" CounterTop maindeck. It's solid and designed to take any matchup.
4 Rainforest
4 Blue Fetches
2 Trop
3 Volcanic
3 Tundra
2 Island
1 Forest
1 A. Ruins (disgusting card in the mirror)
4 Goyf
3 V. Clique (can be RWM if you're scared of Zoo)
4 Top
4 Counterbalance
4 Brainstorm
4 FoW
3 Daze
3 Spell Snare
4 StP
3 EE
2 Threads
2 Shackles
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3 years ago ::
Jan 11, 2010 - 10:17AM
#52
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Date Joined:
Jan 10, 2010
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I haven't seen much discussion of the no splash list. Is U/g Treshhold not viable anymore? I was thinking of cutting the white from my list to make a really reliable manabase, replacing the white removal with some extra critter stealing. The removal would thus be less efficient, but at the same time I'd pretty much never get wasted out of a game.
Thoughts?
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3 years ago ::
Jan 11, 2010 - 10:49AM
#53
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- UnCon Prizewinner 2008
- Forum Guide
Date Joined:
Apr 17, 2007
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My current ProBant list consists of this: ProBant by Xero_22854 x Noble Hierarch  4 x Qasali Pridemage  4 x Tarmogoyf  3 x Rhox War Monk  1 x Progenitus  4 x Brainstorm  4 x Force of Will  4 x Daze  4 x Swords to Plowshares  4 x Counterbalance  4 x Sensei's Divining Top  3 x Natural Order  4 x Misty Rainforest  3 x Flooded Strand  4 x Tropical Island  3 x Tundra  1 x Island  1 x Forest  1 x Plains  I took 2nd with this on Saturday. Finals went to game 3 and he just got over on me with basically the mirror but no NO/Prog. I like this list a lot better than the standard ProBant lists running around as this relies less on Prog and resolving NO to win. Thoughts?
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3 years ago ::
Jan 11, 2010 - 7:34PM
#54
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Date Joined:
Jul 19, 2007
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How has 17 lands been? I'm not really sure what the normal land count is, but it seems a bit low.
Other than that, solid list. Qasali Pridemage is such a great card.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 12, 2010 - 11:40AM
#55
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- UnCon Prizewinner 2008
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Date Joined:
Apr 17, 2007
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How has 17 lands been? I'm not really sure what the normal land count is, but it seems a bit low.
Other than that, solid list. Qasali Pridemage is such a great card.
Well normal lists right now are running 18 lands and the 18th land being a Dryad Arbor  which I really don't think is needed when you add the the Pridemage because it always makes sure you have a creature to sac top NO and when you can't they make excellent beaters. Arbor was really starting to annoy me being a dead land drop as you can't tap it for mana when you play it and with 4 Hierarch I always get all the mana/color I need as it's like running 21 mana sources.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 17, 2010 - 5:47PM
#56
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Date Joined:
Sep 19, 2006
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I'm used to playing Supreme Blue variants and Canadian Threshold, but I feel like trying something new. Here's my list of ProBant:
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Flooded Strand
4 Tropical Island
3 Tundra
1 Island
1 Forest
1 Plains
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Rhox War Monk
3 Qasali Pridemage
1 Progenitus
4 Brainstorm
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Counterbalance
4 Force of Will
4 Daze
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Natural Order
--- Sideboard ---
4 Open Slots
4 Path to Exile
3 Krosan Grip
3 Tormod's Crypt
1 Ravenous Trap
I like having the 3 basics for mana stability, but I don't like Dryad Arbor - I've got 14 green creatures to sacrifice, and 8 ways to find them. Qasali Pridemage is excellent, it does so much from pushing Zoo through to being a major winner in the mirror.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 20, 2010 - 7:24PM
#57
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Date Joined:
Jul 19, 2007
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NO Bant is definitely one of the best decks in the format. There's still not very many decks that can actually answer Progenitus, and the addition of an "I win" button helps a lot against the CounterTop mirror and Zoo. Really, the deck doesn't have many weaknesses.
Anyways, your maindeck is solid, though you should probably check out those lists with Wall of Roots/Wall of Blossoms. They are interesting, at the very least.
Your sideboard should probably have some Engineered Explosives and Blue blasts.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 20, 2010 - 8:05PM
#58
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Date Joined:
Sep 19, 2006
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Which I both own, conveniently enough.
I checked the wall of roots/blossoms lists, but the main reason to play those is for Firespout.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 22, 2010 - 1:22PM
#59
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- UnCon Prizewinner 2008
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Date Joined:
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@ gamegeek2: Well with your list only being a 1 card difference from mine I can tell you I know it's a solid list. The only thing I do see that I don't like (which is also the same problem I've seen with my previous lists) is the 8 Fetch's and only 3 Pridemage. I found 3 Pridemage to be underwhelming as it helps this deck out a lot between being an extra sac source to NO to just being an additional Exalted beater that has the potential to go all the way. Now the 8th fetch I found to be just too much, the loss of life is not really the issue but can become detrimental to your game plan if something goes wrong, but another reason is that I just wanted to see the colored lands more and with 7 fetch's it seems be doing good, for me at least.
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3 years ago ::
Jan 22, 2010 - 9:28PM
#60
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Date Joined:
Sep 19, 2006
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Pridemage has been performing well, but I think it's greedy to go below 18 lands. Sure, you have Hierarch, but it's of no use if you don't have lands to begin with (Stifle) and can be killed (which LD decks will definitely do, particularly Tempo Thresh with its cheap burn).
Don't get me wrong - I love Pridemage, but I don't think I can afford to go below 18. If I were to make room for him, I'd cut a Daze.
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