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4 years ago  ::  Nov 27, 2008 - 7:32PM #11
evilweevil666
Date Joined: Oct 10, 2007
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IthilanorStPete wrote:

I had the idea for a deck with Zur's Weirding + Firemanes for a lock, a while back.


Well there was 2004(?) Worlds with akira asahara playing that sick zur's + enduring ideal deck. With form of the dragon as the win-con. The cool thing about form is unless your opponent can deal more than 5 damage with his stuff on the board, he can't win.

NO ONE EXPECTS THE QUAGSIRE INSURRECTION!

My SUPER AWESOME GregtheEgg lightning bolt: http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm284/fengairen2/Scan.png
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4 years ago  ::  Nov 28, 2008 - 2:58PM #12
blackcat77
Date Joined: Feb 14, 2006
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IthilanorStPete wrote:

I had the idea for a deck with Zur's Weirding + Firemanes for a lock, a while back.


A buddy of mine runs a Zur's Firemane deck. It has Honden of Cleasing Fire to complete the lock if Firemane is not available. He is also running Searing Meditation to finish out the removal package. Now its morefo a casual deck but you might be able to tune a deck like this to fight the meta.
You do have a ton of good new red and white cards you could try to add in.

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4 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2008 - 8:45AM #13
Enigmata
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3 Eternal Dragon
3 Firemane Angel/Exalted Angel

4 Thirst for Knowledge
3 Gifts Ungiven
3 Wrath of God
4 Chrome Mox
4 Lightning Helix
4 Remand/Mana Leak
3 Stifle
4 Spell Snare
2 Engineered Explosives

2 Steam Vents
3 Sacred Foundry
4 Hallowed Fountain
3 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
1 Windswept Heath
3 Plains
3 Island
2 Mountain

Rough sketch... thoughts?

Edit: got rid of the 8th Chrome Mox...

Aug 13, 2012 -- 1:40PM, Niche wrote:

Aug 13, 2012 -- 12:28PM, wbeard7 wrote:

Aug 12, 2012 -- 11:52AM, Enigmata wrote:

So when UR Delver came out to win a GP, did Christian Calcano email/call you and thank you personally, or was there just a mutual understanding?



Legitimately laughed at this...haha



No kidding. +1 internets for a hidden gem in the standard deck help.

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4 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2008 - 9:25AM #14
IthilanorStPete
Date Joined: Sep 25, 2007
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Gifts seems pretty underwhelming; also, it's brokenness quotient is too low.
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4 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2008 - 11:28AM #15
Bastow
Date Joined: Dec 4, 2006
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I you want to keep Gifts, I would go for a singleton Firemane and two Exalted. Or maybe 2 Eternal, 1 Firemane and 3 Exalted. I would also include a Firespout, so you can pull off the 'gifts for three sweepers move' that was, in my opinion, one of the better features in Chapin's Gifts deck. Angelfire could also be a home for Scepter with both Mana Leak and Helix there already.
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4 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2008 - 12:05PM #16
avenged_sixfold
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I have been working on a Lightning/Trinket Angel variant for a while now, but I'm not sure if it would fit in with the metagame. Tell me what you guys think:

4x Lightning Angel
3x Trinket Mage
3x Vendilion Clique

4x Spell Snare
3x Mana Leak
2x Stifle
3x Firespout
4x Thirst for Knowledge
4x Lightning Helix

2x Chalice of the Void
1x Pithing Needle
2x Engineered Explosives

24 Lands including Riptide Laboratory
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4 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2008 - 12:29PM #17
mntwinsfan
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Enigmata: When I was testing the list similar to yours that I showed you a few days ago, I found that EE was usually better than Wrath. I recommend switching the numbers.

If you keep Gifts:
-1 Wog or EE if you make the switch, +1 Firespout.
Use a 3-2-1 setup for finishers so you can have Firemane Angel.
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4 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2008 - 3:13PM #18
Enigmata
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3 Eternal Dragon
1 Firemane Angel
2 Exalted Angel

4 Thirst for Knowledge
3 Gifts Ungiven
2 Wrath of God
1 Firespout
4 Chrome Mox
4 Lightning Helix
4 Mana Leak
2 Stifle
4 Spell Snare
3 Engineered Explosives

2 Steam Vents
3 Sacred Foundry
4 Hallowed Fountain
3 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta
1 Windswept Heath
2 Plains
3 Island
1 Mountain
2 Academy Ruins

3 Chalice of the Void
1 Wrath of God
2 Stifle
4 Canonist
2 Isochron Scepter
3 Something...?

Changed it up a bit.

Aug 13, 2012 -- 1:40PM, Niche wrote:

Aug 13, 2012 -- 12:28PM, wbeard7 wrote:

Aug 12, 2012 -- 11:52AM, Enigmata wrote:

So when UR Delver came out to win a GP, did Christian Calcano email/call you and thank you personally, or was there just a mutual understanding?



Legitimately laughed at this...haha



No kidding. +1 internets for a hidden gem in the standard deck help.

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4 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2008 - 4:15PM #19
RathiAssassin
Date Joined: Mar 24, 2008
Posts: 787
Not sure how I feel about Scepters in the s/b. Here's my idea:

3 Chalice of the Void
1 Wrath of God
2 Stifle
4 Canonist
2 Leyline of the Void/Tormod's Crypt
3 Pithing Needle

With all the decks using a LftL engine, and with the return of Dredge, I think some amount of gravehate is important. Also, I'd go -1 Hallowed Fountain +1 Tolaria West in your main deck. Maybe also -1 Spell Snare +1 Stifle? Stifle doesn't really seem to have any flaws...
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4 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2008 - 4:38PM #20
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4 Chalice of the Void
3 Ethersworn Canonist
3 Pithing Needle
2 Tormod's Crypt
2 Stifle
1 Wrath of God

Thoughts on this board? It seems to have answers to most of the commonly played decks, though it might be a little heavy of Elf hate and light on stuff for Blue control.
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