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4 years ago  ::  Aug 08, 2009 - 1:45AM #1021
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Xukko_The_Unholy wrote:

How do you know this?..


It's simply a rumor. I never stated as fact, as evidenced by "it seems". No need to blow a fuse.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 08, 2009 - 2:45PM #1022
Xukko_The_Unholy
Date Joined: Oct 11, 2002
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Haven't been having much success with the standard Kithkin at my FNM, so I think i'll go back to trying my WW Knight-BFT MD variant.



4 x *Burrenton Forge-Tender
4 x *Figure of Destiny
4 x *Knight of Meadowgrain
4 x *Knight of the White Orchid
4 x *Cloudgoat Ranger
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4 x *Path to Exile
4 x *Honor of the Pure
4 x *Spectral Procession
3 x *Ajani Goldmane
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19 x *Plains
4 x *Windbrisk Heights
2 x *Rustic Clachan
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4 x *Ethersworn Canonist
4 x *Stilmoon Cavalier
3 x *Reveillark
3 x *Unmake
1 x *Harm's Way
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 08, 2009 - 9:17PM #1023
Homeau-t-klown
Date Joined: Feb 13, 2008
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i saw a list at the local shop when people were getting ready for a ptq that ran 2x baneslayer MD as a toll to beat 5cc. anyone have thoughts on that?
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 08, 2009 - 9:45PM #1024
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1st place 3-0 at FNM last night.

R1: 2-0 vs. Monoblack something ( Sign in Blood , Corrupt , Tendrils , Sanguine Bond )
R2: 2-1 vs. WW/u ( Cryptic Command , Cancel , Martial Coup )
R3: 2-1 vs. Traditional WW ( Elite Vanguard , Harm's Way )

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I only ran the Mirrorweave because I didn't have a fourh Honor (I do now, and it's in the deck). As expected, star players were the tokens and pump: Spectral, Cloudgoat, Honor, Ajani. Sided in Stillmoon Cavalier all 3 matches, Moonglove Extract vs. the two WW decks. Only saw one opposing Stillmoon but I did kill it before it could swing
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 09, 2009 - 4:56AM #1025
Homeau-t-klown
Date Joined: Feb 13, 2008
Posts: 122
i took a similar ww deck to an event and went 3-0.

my list:

plains x21
windbrisk x4
figure x4
goldmeadow stalwart x4
cenn x4
knight of meadowgrain x4
cloudgoat x4
spectral x4
honor x4
path to exile x4
ajani x2
surge of thoughtweft

my sb was kind of a pile:
forge tender x4
ranger of eos x2
stillmoon x2
safe passage x3
harms way x2
goldmeadow harrier
baneslayer angel

the board didnt have canonists cause i didnt own them, i will add them. also would use more stillmoon if i owned them

anyway..

g1 2-1 vs elf aggro (not combo)
game 1 he got out too many guys and i couldn't draw fliers. game 2 i board in the safe passages and stillmoons and harms ways, but actually pumped spectral tokens give me the win after i path his elf that kills fliers. game 3 he has a nuts draw (played whole hand turn 2). but somehow i managed to play thru and drop some guys... i think it was 2x meadowgrain, cenn and honor which made some of his attacks essentially null. got out a cloudgoat, swing with him for 6 in the air next turn, and dropped a stillmoon. following turn i need to topdeck a land to pump stillmoon enough, and i do. goat for 6, stillmoon is a 3 and i pay to make him big enough for lethal that turn.

thoughts: i finally saw the ridiculous power of stillmoon. now i'm torn if i wanna buy two more for the sb since i'm only playing in locals till zanzabar

g2 monored burn 2-0
game 1 he got land flood after mull twice, i run over him, don't see any creatures so i sb out paths for game 2. game 2 it's back and forth, he had tattermunge maniancs and some stuff like ball lightning. anyway i'm at 9 and he's real low, he drops ball lightning. he swings, and i debate taking it (he was tapped out). but i block with cenn to take only 4 and go to 5 life. he then plays land for turn and bolt, so good block by me. his next turn he doesnt draw anything to get in the final 2 points so i win.

thoughts: he didnt draw any fallouts in either game, lucky for me. sb in 4 forge tender, 2 ranger of eos and 2 harms way vs red burn seems crazy good.

g3 jund aggro 2-0
game 1 i get out to a fast start and do some good damage. cenn and an honor mean my guys are 4/4 and such which beats ram gangs and bloodbraid elfs. lightning bolts made things interesting, but opponent didnt have fallout so i pulled it off. game 2 more of the same really. spectral into a windbrisk for a second spectral since i saw no pulse's game 1. hells thunder does some damage to me, but the opponent never drew a 5th land to unearth him. honor means i can swing with 12 worth of flier tokens, so 2 turns later i win it.

not bad. i will miss the deck once its gone
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 09, 2009 - 10:05AM #1026
Jeocadin
Date Joined: Dec 11, 2006
Posts: 261

homeau-t-klown wrote:

i took a similar ww deck to an event and went 3-0.

my list:

plains x21
windbrisk x4
figure x4
goldmeadow stalwart x4
cenn x4
knight of meadowgrain x4
cloudgoat x4
spectral x4
honor x4
path to exile x4
ajani x2
surge of thoughtweft

my sb was kind of a pile:
forge tender x4
ranger of eos x2
stillmoon x2
safe passage x3
harms way x2
goldmeadow harrier
baneslayer angel

the board didnt have canonists cause i didnt own them, i will add them. also would use more stillmoon if i owned them

anyway..

g1 2-1 vs elf aggro (not combo)
game 1 he got out too many guys and i couldn't draw fliers. game 2 i board in the safe passages and stillmoons and harms ways, but actually pumped spectral tokens give me the win after i path his elf that kills fliers. game 3 he has a nuts draw (played whole hand turn 2). but somehow i managed to play thru and drop some guys... i think it was 2x meadowgrain, cenn and honor which made some of his attacks essentially null. got out a cloudgoat, swing with him for 6 in the air next turn, and dropped a stillmoon. following turn i need to topdeck a land to pump stillmoon enough, and i do. goat for 6, stillmoon is a 3 and i pay to make him big enough for lethal that turn.

thoughts: i finally saw the ridiculous power of stillmoon. now i'm torn if i wanna buy two more for the sb since i'm only playing in locals till zanzabar

g2 monored burn 2-0
game 1 he got land flood after mull twice, i run over him, don't see any creatures so i sb out paths for game 2. game 2 it's back and forth, he had tattermunge maniancs and some stuff like ball lightning. anyway i'm at 9 and he's real low, he drops ball lightning. he swings, and i debate taking it (he was tapped out). but i block with cenn to take only 4 and go to 5 life. he then plays land for turn and bolt, so good block by me. his next turn he doesnt draw anything to get in the final 2 points so i win.

thoughts: he didnt draw any fallouts in either game, lucky for me. sb in 4 forge tender, 2 ranger of eos and 2 harms way vs red burn seems crazy good.

g3 jund aggro 2-0
game 1 i get out to a fast start and do some good damage. cenn and an honor mean my guys are 4/4 and such which beats ram gangs and bloodbraid elfs. lightning bolts made things interesting, but opponent didnt have fallout so i pulled it off. game 2 more of the same really. spectral into a windbrisk for a second spectral since i saw no pulse's game 1. hells thunder does some damage to me, but the opponent never drew a 5th land to unearth him. honor means i can swing with 12 worth of flier tokens, so 2 turns later i win it.

not bad. i will miss the deck once its gone


Almost the entire deck is of Lor/Sha Block. I'm going to miss mine too when Zendikar comes in.

Are you going to make some replacements to keep the spirit alive, or are you going to retire it completely?

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 09, 2009 - 11:06AM #1027
Xukko_The_Unholy
Date Joined: Oct 11, 2002
Posts: 837

Jeocadin wrote:

Almost the entire deck is of Lor/Sha Block. I'm going to miss mine too when Zendikar comes in.

Are you going to make some replacements to keep the spirit alive, or are you going to retire it completely?


I'm going with Soldiers. Let's just hope Zendikar releases some good ones. Replacement for Akrasan Squire would be nice. That card is jank compared to FoD.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 09, 2009 - 11:17AM #1028
Jeocadin
Date Joined: Dec 11, 2006
Posts: 261
Alaran one-drop soldiers are a miss. Why not try to go with Goldmeadow Harrier in the meantime?
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 09, 2009 - 3:10PM #1029
Xukko_The_Unholy
Date Joined: Oct 11, 2002
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Jeocadin wrote:

Alaran one-drop soldiers are a miss. Why not try to go with Goldmeadow Harrier in the meantime?


I'm playing Soldiers post rotation - not now. They're much slower and less efficient then Kithkin atm. Kithkin's just a better deck.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 09, 2009 - 7:30PM #1030
Homeau-t-klown
Date Joined: Feb 13, 2008
Posts: 122
i am not sure what i will do after zendikar. last year (pre-shadowmoor days) i played kithkin pretty casually, and it did ok but lacked flying and long game reach to win attrition wars. this year, figure and spectral have given the deck both evasion AND some extra reach in terms of figure becoming an 8/8 if need be late game.

initially i want to say that elspeth to make guys fly might be strong- i recall griffin guide actually being a decent card back last year some, so maybe elspeth does something in that vein.

ie, turn 1 play squire, t2 honor swing for 3, t3 some power 2 or 3 guy swing for 3, t4 elspeth+pump the turn 2 play plus squire exalted and fly?

i'm not sure honestly. evasion is needed i think though. it, in my very limited experience, is what makes the current build more well rounded. like, look at my report, fliers were basically my win con against some of those decks
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