New Posts For Thread: New player help, playing 4e without DM rules.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29770329/New_player_help,_playing_4e_without_DM_rules.Me and a group of friends want to play some D&D and i got some 2nd hand 4e rule books because we heard there was a way to play without the need of a DM i am aware it doesnt have the same feel but it will allow us to get the hang of moving about our hthanks for all the great info guys :) its great to see there are still some decent online forum communities.it really is a rare thing now.you have all been very helpful and patient even tho some of my questions if not all exeuded noob :Phttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29770329/New_player_help,_playing_4e_without_DM_rules.?post_id=529051805#529051805thanks for all the great info guys :) its great to see there are still some decent online forum communities.it really is a rare thing now.you have all been very helpful and patient even tho some of my questions if not all exeuded noob :PFri, 15 Feb 2013 01:12:44 -0600Thinking back - Be warned - we have found being a DM addictive - - We had a similar situation to You we wanted to play - no one wanted to DM - went with one player DM and played a char - - - BUT it is a lot of fun to play the NPC's etc, and amusinghttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29770329/New_player_help,_playing_4e_without_DM_rules.?post_id=529045949#529045949Thinking back - Be warned - we have found being a DM addictive - - We had a similar situation to You we wanted to play - no one wanted to DM - went with one player DM and played a char - - - BUT it is a lot of fun to play the NPC's etc, and amusingThu, 14 Feb 2013 17:54:57 -0600Just to clarify on what Mand said, "d20 System" was a core game system that WoTC published in 2000. D&D 3.0, D&D 3.5, Pathfinder, D20 Modern, and the Star Wars Roleplaying game are all extensions and/or revisions of the "d20 System" Prior version ohttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29770329/New_player_help,_playing_4e_without_DM_rules.?post_id=529042059#529042059Just to clarify on what Mand said, "d20 System" was a core game system that WoTC published in 2000. D&D 3.0, D&D 3.5, Pathfinder, D20 Modern, and the Star Wars Roleplaying game are all extensions and/or revisions of the "d20 System" Prior version oThu, 14 Feb 2013 15:51:06 -06004e is not a "d20 System" at all. Completely new, completely different.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29770329/New_player_help,_playing_4e_without_DM_rules.?post_id=529028727#5290287274e is not a "d20 System" at all. Completely new, completely different.Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:35:53 -0600awesome thx for the rundown. is 4e not a traditional D20 system? also u have a copy of the red box, i have barely touched it, what rule set is that is it 3.5 or 4ehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29770329/New_player_help,_playing_4e_without_DM_rules.?post_id=529022119#529022119awesome thx for the rundown. is 4e not a traditional D20 system? also u have a copy of the red box, i have barely touched it, what rule set is that is it 3.5 or 4eThu, 14 Feb 2013 00:34:32 -0600