New Posts For Thread: Thief vs Rogue for Melee Stealth-Ninjahttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29767273/Thief_vs_Rogue_for_Melee_Stealth-NinjaSo, I'm interested in making some sort of melee ninja-type character. Basically I want a Dex monkey with high Stealth and high DPR.I'm not sure which to go with: Rogue or Thief. Both have ways to Stealth with just cover/concealment.Which is easierPixie is a prime race.High DPR from perma-stealth builds come from getting OA's more then anything else.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29767273/Thief_vs_Rogue_for_Melee_Stealth-Ninja?post_id=528942951#528942951Pixie is a prime race.High DPR from perma-stealth builds come from getting OA's more then anything else.Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:07:41 -0600Eladrin hybrid fey warlock executioner assassin? At paragon levels, there's an eladrin fey warlock feat makes you invisible when you hit your cursed target, and there's an assassin feat lets you make hide check as a free action when you become invishttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29767273/Thief_vs_Rogue_for_Melee_Stealth-Ninja?post_id=528937689#528937689Eladrin hybrid fey warlock executioner assassin? At paragon levels, there's an eladrin fey warlock feat makes you invisible when you hit your cursed target, and there's an assassin feat lets you make hide check as a free action when you become invisMon, 11 Feb 2013 05:58:08 -0600Seems like an awful lot of investment just to decrease your hit rate by 10%. Versatile Duelist has its obvious use (HBO + Deft Strike + Ghostwalker Style), but what axe support are you refering to that would be relevant here? Note also that VD does nhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29767273/Thief_vs_Rogue_for_Melee_Stealth-Ninja?post_id=528932197#528932197Seems like an awful lot of investment just to decrease your hit rate by 10%. Versatile Duelist has its obvious use (HBO + Deft Strike + Ghostwalker Style), but what axe support are you refering to that would be relevant here? Note also that VD does nSun, 10 Feb 2013 20:22:13 -0600Yeah, that's how I feel as well.I'd be ok with the enemy still "knowing" what square I was in. Our DM doesn't usually waste an enemies turn by trying to attack stealth builds, even if they technically know the last square it was in. After all, if yhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29767273/Thief_vs_Rogue_for_Melee_Stealth-Ninja?post_id=528930945#528930945Yeah, that's how I feel as well.I'd be ok with the enemy still "knowing" what square I was in. Our DM doesn't usually waste an enemies turn by trying to attack stealth builds, even if they technically know the last square it was in. After all, if ySun, 10 Feb 2013 18:59:53 -0600For what it's worth, the Master Thief PP for the Thief class is the only way to get true perma-stealth, remaining hidden even when attacking. So if you want the enemy to NEVER know where you are, then that would be the way to go. Otherwise you have thttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29767273/Thief_vs_Rogue_for_Melee_Stealth-Ninja?post_id=528930581#528930581For what it's worth, the Master Thief PP for the Thief class is the only way to get true perma-stealth, remaining hidden even when attacking. So if you want the enemy to NEVER know where you are, then that would be the way to go. Otherwise you have tSun, 10 Feb 2013 18:35:51 -0600