New Posts For Thread: Worst ability ever devised?http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29628261/Worst_ability_ever_devisedWorst ability ever devised - Night Crawler? Night Crawler, lvl 8 Vampire class ability as described in the Character Builder: "You may climb (at your speed) across a ceiling or similar surface, but if you end your turn on such a surface, you fall."yes, with Spider Technique you don't 'attempt to' climb, you climbhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29628261/Worst_ability_ever_devised?post_id=528085063#528085063yes, with Spider Technique you don't 'attempt to' climb, you climbTue, 15 Jan 2013 17:00:14 -0600No you don't need to make an Athletic check with Spider Technique since you make a check to see if you can climb, while the power specifically let you do so, similar to how Sudden Leap let you jump without making a check. Scrambling Climb is an exemphttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29628261/Worst_ability_ever_devised?post_id=528084933#528084933No you don't need to make an Athletic check with Spider Technique since you make a check to see if you can climb, while the power specifically let you do so, similar to how Sudden Leap let you jump without making a check. Scrambling Climb is an exempTue, 15 Jan 2013 16:54:50 -0600Night Crawler gives you a climb speed. Having a climb speed means you don't have to make Athletics checks to climb and you climb your speed.Climbing only refers to verticle (up/down) movement. Night Crawler allows you to climb on horizontal surfacehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29628261/Worst_ability_ever_devised?post_id=528076285#528076285Night Crawler gives you a climb speed. Having a climb speed means you don't have to make Athletics checks to climb and you climb your speed.Climbing only refers to verticle (up/down) movement. Night Crawler allows you to climb on horizontal surfaceTue, 15 Jan 2013 11:50:31 -0600Thanks for clearing that up guys. So a climb speed gives me vertical climbing right off the bat and then the special ceiling movement is a bonus ability in addition to being able to climbing vertically. So my Vampire sucks a little less with this nehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29628261/Worst_ability_ever_devised?post_id=528075183#528075183Thanks for clearing that up guys. So a climb speed gives me vertical climbing right off the bat and then the special ceiling movement is a bonus ability in addition to being able to climbing vertically. So my Vampire sucks a little less with this neTue, 15 Jan 2013 11:08:43 -0600No Spider Technique and Night Crawler are not exactly the same. Night Crawler gives a climb speed as an alternate movement mode, while Spider Technique doesn't.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29628261/Worst_ability_ever_devised?post_id=528066141#528066141No Spider Technique and Night Crawler are not exactly the same. Night Crawler gives a climb speed as an alternate movement mode, while Spider Technique doesn't.Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:42:15 -0600