New Posts For Thread: Grabs: broken?http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29622413/Grabs:_brokenMy paladin uses heavy armor and a heavy shield. As a result, his acrobatics check is -3 and his athletics is a measly 2. How is he ever supposed to escape a grab? Most of the monsters now have Fortitudes that would require me to roll a natural 19 orNote that since MM3 escaping from a monster grab has changed to mostly a moderate DC and for a few truly grab specialized monsters a hard DC check with the DC set by the level of the monster. It is NOT tied anymore to Fortitude or Reflex of the monsthttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29622413/Grabs:_broken?post_id=528039555#528039555Note that since MM3 escaping from a monster grab has changed to mostly a moderate DC and for a few truly grab specialized monsters a hard DC check with the DC set by the level of the monster. It is NOT tied anymore to Fortitude or Reflex of the monstMon, 14 Jan 2013 07:05:14 -0600You could, but given that the guy concerned has complained he doesn't have the athletics to escape, he's probably a CHAladin, and thus bull rush would be an even bigger waste of a standard action than normal, since it just won't have a hope in hell ohttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29622413/Grabs:_broken?post_id=528004315#528004315You could, but given that the guy concerned has complained he doesn't have the athletics to escape, he's probably a CHAladin, and thus bull rush would be an even bigger waste of a standard action than normal, since it just won't have a hope in hell oSun, 13 Jan 2013 04:11:13 -0600Well since technically he is adjacent to you, and not sharing a same square, you can.BULL RUSH: STANDARD ACTION✦ Target: You can bull rush a target adjacent to you that is smaller than you, the same size category as you, or one category larger thanhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29622413/Grabs:_broken?post_id=528000733#528000733Well since technically he is adjacent to you, and not sharing a same square, you can.BULL RUSH: STANDARD ACTION✦ Target: You can bull rush a target adjacent to you that is smaller than you, the same size category as you, or one category larger thanSat, 12 Jan 2013 21:37:22 -0600Just a note, Dazing doesn't prevent grabs being maintained. Stunning, Dominating or Unconscious would.It may also bee worth noting that the Pally has a couple of powers (Death Angel and Fortune Spurned Smite IIRC) which force the target to move voluhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29622413/Grabs:_broken?post_id=527995103#527995103Just a note, Dazing doesn't prevent grabs being maintained. Stunning, Dominating or Unconscious would.It may also bee worth noting that the Pally has a couple of powers (Death Angel and Fortune Spurned Smite IIRC) which force the target to move voluSat, 12 Jan 2013 17:51:23 -0600So few monsters I've run into have grab powers...But what a brawling fighter can do with a grab is impressive.So no, not broken. If anything, fun.If it is a problem, get a set of those razor-bracers that do damage when you are grabbed, or daze/stun thttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29622413/Grabs:_broken?post_id=527994879#527994879So few monsters I've run into have grab powers...But what a brawling fighter can do with a grab is impressive.So no, not broken. If anything, fun.If it is a problem, get a set of those razor-bracers that do damage when you are grabbed, or daze/stun tSat, 12 Jan 2013 17:44:04 -0600