New Posts For Thread: 4E Telekinesis Equivalent?http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29617867/4E_Telekinesis_EquivalentIs there a 4E equivalent for the old Telekinesis spells/powers. Mainly to take/disarm an object held by someone or something? It seems that in 4E you cannot take attended objects (or disarm in general).Right.If the item in question is a plot item (key, pendant, etc.), then I would allow a Telekinetic Psion to lift the object with a successful Arcana or Intelligence check. Taking the greataxe from the giant's hand? Probably not. [/quote]I look at ithttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29617867/4E_Telekinesis_Equivalent?post_id=527880757#527880757Right.If the item in question is a plot item (key, pendant, etc.), then I would allow a Telekinetic Psion to lift the object with a successful Arcana or Intelligence check. Taking the greataxe from the giant's hand? Probably not. [/quote]I look at itTue, 08 Jan 2013 22:22:00 -0600Right.If the item in question is a plot item (key, pendant, etc.), then I would allow a Telekinetic Psion to lift the object with a successful Arcana or Intelligence check. Taking the greataxe from the giant's hand? Probably not.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29617867/4E_Telekinesis_Equivalent?post_id=527880279#527880279Right.If the item in question is a plot item (key, pendant, etc.), then I would allow a Telekinetic Psion to lift the object with a successful Arcana or Intelligence check. Taking the greataxe from the giant's hand? Probably not.Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:42:45 -0600I don't see any reason why it should be impossible to invent some kind of telekinetic stealing ability. You'd use some sort of ability/skill check against some sort of DC/defense, and have some possibly a little open-ended effect, but then again in ghttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29617867/4E_Telekinesis_Equivalent?post_id=527879933#527879933I don't see any reason why it should be impossible to invent some kind of telekinetic stealing ability. You'd use some sort of ability/skill check against some sort of DC/defense, and have some possibly a little open-ended effect, but then again in gTue, 08 Jan 2013 21:13:04 -0600Pretty much this. Once players start using this tactic and it works, the DM realizes how effective it is and starts using it on the PCs. It is far harder on PCs to be disarmed than it is for monsters, so the game breaks down. Same is true of called shttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29617867/4E_Telekinesis_Equivalent?post_id=527852213#527852213Pretty much this. Once players start using this tactic and it works, the DM realizes how effective it is and starts using it on the PCs. It is far harder on PCs to be disarmed than it is for monsters, so the game breaks down. Same is true of called sTue, 08 Jan 2013 01:46:37 -0600mage hand can also works like that, and there is also psionic cantrips from wild talent feats that were introduced on dark sun, but you better ask your DM permission for that one.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29617867/4E_Telekinesis_Equivalent?post_id=527837907#527837907mage hand can also works like that, and there is also psionic cantrips from wild talent feats that were introduced on dark sun, but you better ask your DM permission for that one.Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:24:48 -0600