New Posts For Thread: What 2nd Ed Got Righthttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29615551/What_2nd_Ed_Got_RightLately I have been rereading my second ed books and memories of Lake Geneva came coming back. After getting bored of D&DN in the last packet or 2 I have run a couple of game of it with my players most of all who had 0 or limited second ed experience.Good debate ZB glad I could have this civil discussion with you.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29615551/What_2nd_Ed_Got_Right?post_id=528595379#528595379Good debate ZB glad I could have this civil discussion with you.Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:19:36 -0600Sure, I agree that the system has influence. We'll likely never agree how much, though - and that's perfectly ok. :-DWell I can tell you that for 4e, at least, the game ended up being a whole lot like what the loudest voices demanded. And I see thhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29615551/What_2nd_Ed_Got_Right?post_id=528595233#528595233Sure, I agree that the system has influence. We'll likely never agree how much, though - and that's perfectly ok. :-DWell I can tell you that for 4e, at least, the game ended up being a whole lot like what the loudest voices demanded. And I see thTue, 29 Jan 2013 16:14:00 -0600Alaster, that constant escalation of power seems to be prevalent in many games (video and roleplaying) I think systems really suffer from doing this upwards power rather then broadening out abilities, and is why there is so much disbalance in higherhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29615551/What_2nd_Ed_Got_Right?post_id=528595049#528595049Alaster, that constant escalation of power seems to be prevalent in many games (video and roleplaying) I think systems really suffer from doing this upwards power rather then broadening out abilities, and is why there is so much disbalance in higherTue, 29 Jan 2013 16:05:59 -0600Well I do not doubt that there are people out there, like who are not influenced by the editions mechanics and systems, I have spoken to many, on both sides who as far as I can tell, are influenced by the system. That's not to say you are wrong and Ihttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29615551/What_2nd_Ed_Got_Right?post_id=528594663#528594663Well I do not doubt that there are people out there, like who are not influenced by the editions mechanics and systems, I have spoken to many, on both sides who as far as I can tell, are influenced by the system. That's not to say you are wrong and ITue, 29 Jan 2013 15:48:15 -0600Yeah, I can see some of that. I mean, that there's a difference in expectation between earlier and later editions can't be denied, IMO. I just don't think that the system influences peoples' approach to play as much as other factors. Like I said,http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29615551/What_2nd_Ed_Got_Right?post_id=528593805#528593805Yeah, I can see some of that. I mean, that there's a difference in expectation between earlier and later editions can't be denied, IMO. I just don't think that the system influences peoples' approach to play as much as other factors. Like I said,Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:18:10 -0600