New Posts For Thread: Vancian Magic Systemhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29612191/Vancian_Magic_SystemFirst of all, I'm sorry I made this thread, I'm sure there are plenty of others already, I just didn't have the time and energy to read them all.**I hate the Vancian Magic System. The whole. It's illogical, it's hard to use, and it's very very limitiNo, it's not insignificant. However, it implies that the cause is not the rules, but how some playstyles interract with the rules. That means that rather than needing a rules change, the issue simply needs a corrective module or two for those who ehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29612191/Vancian_Magic_System?post_id=527810817#527810817No, it's not insignificant. However, it implies that the cause is not the rules, but how some playstyles interract with the rules. That means that rather than needing a rules change, the issue simply needs a corrective module or two for those who eSun, 06 Jan 2013 14:58:02 -0600If strong arming was built into the system, the 5MWD would not appear at all.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29612191/Vancian_Magic_System?post_id=527810643#527810643If strong arming was built into the system, the 5MWD would not appear at all.Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:55:05 -0600My group never plays with Vancian magic. We always play that Wizards cast as Sorcerors except they have other rules to make them not the same as sorcerors. We just find Vancian magic less fun so we changed it in our games. Its not fun to prep each sphttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29612191/Vancian_Magic_System?post_id=527810205#527810205My group never plays with Vancian magic. We always play that Wizards cast as Sorcerors except they have other rules to make them not the same as sorcerors. We just find Vancian magic less fun so we changed it in our games. Its not fun to prep each spSun, 06 Jan 2013 14:44:04 -0600But it's the system D&D has always used and it's one of the things that make you look at a book and say "Oh yeah, that's D&D, no doubt."(well, only 4ed didn't, and that's probably one of the reason many old players would look at 4ed books and not feehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29612191/Vancian_Magic_System?post_id=527807053#527807053But it's the system D&D has always used and it's one of the things that make you look at a book and say "Oh yeah, that's D&D, no doubt."(well, only 4ed didn't, and that's probably one of the reason many old players would look at 4ed books and not feeSun, 06 Jan 2013 13:21:16 -0600Slightly incorrect. Vance's books actually make it work slightly differently than D&D does, and the issue remains that the spell system works better for a Wargame than an RPG.Simply because of the 'No Fail' clause that's built into each spell.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29612191/Vancian_Magic_System?post_id=527806723#527806723Slightly incorrect. Vance's books actually make it work slightly differently than D&D does, and the issue remains that the spell system works better for a Wargame than an RPG.Simply because of the 'No Fail' clause that's built into each spell.Sun, 06 Jan 2013 13:12:54 -0600