New Posts For Thread: D&DN Short Rests on 4e... also, traps and perception, and level-scaling mounts.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29603347/DDN_Short_Rests_on_4e..._also,_traps_and_perception,_and_level-scaling_mounts.Well guys, 's the second session I have where our players spam healing surges during short rests, and they're becoming VERY nit-picky about it.Every two- three encounters they have to take a rest because they're being mauled, by mobs their level or lFYI Its in the latest DM ressource as well (DMK pg. 166)http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29603347/DDN_Short_Rests_on_4e..._also,_traps_and_perception,_and_level-scaling_mounts.?post_id=527563067#527563067FYI Its in the latest DM ressource as well (DMK pg. 166)Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:00:31 -0600You evidently feel that you should never use that text from the DMG. That is possibly a matter for you to debate (but not me... I merely provided the text).http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29603347/DDN_Short_Rests_on_4e..._also,_traps_and_perception,_and_level-scaling_mounts.?post_id=527562985#527562985You evidently feel that you should never use that text from the DMG. That is possibly a matter for you to debate (but not me... I merely provided the text).Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:53:30 -0600The OP is a DM, and your reply to her was "it doesn't exist and you should never do it". This merited me providing the DMG quote.[/quote]Whether it currently exists is debatable. And you should still never do it.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29603347/DDN_Short_Rests_on_4e..._also,_traps_and_perception,_and_level-scaling_mounts.?post_id=527562643#527562643The OP is a DM, and your reply to her was "it doesn't exist and you should never do it". This merited me providing the DMG quote.[/quote]Whether it currently exists is debatable. And you should still never do it.Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:31:19 -0600The OP is a DM, and your reply to her was "it doesn't exist and you should never do it". This merited me providing the DMG quote.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29603347/DDN_Short_Rests_on_4e..._also,_traps_and_perception,_and_level-scaling_mounts.?post_id=527560789#527560789The OP is a DM, and your reply to her was "it doesn't exist and you should never do it". This merited me providing the DMG quote.Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:49:49 -0600My statement is still true, is my point. Take 20 exists essentially by DM fiat and even as far as that goes, the mentions were removed in later advice/rules, to the point where it is pretty questionable if DMs are even supposed to think they have thehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29603347/DDN_Short_Rests_on_4e..._also,_traps_and_perception,_and_level-scaling_mounts.?post_id=527560299#527560299My statement is still true, is my point. Take 20 exists essentially by DM fiat and even as far as that goes, the mentions were removed in later advice/rules, to the point where it is pretty questionable if DMs are even supposed to think they have theFri, 28 Dec 2012 16:26:24 -0600