New Posts For Thread: About Perception/Insight Checks...http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29541447/About_PerceptionInsight_Checks...Ok, this mechanic hasn't been FULLY clarified to me, never in the story of roleplaying games... And that's maybe because I'm not very intuitive :/Let's say I hide a key on a bookshelf, inside a book, and the Insight Throw requires a DC 25 to find it.It should be a perception check to find the key. :)http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29541447/About_PerceptionInsight_Checks...?post_id=527383707#527383707It should be a perception check to find the key. :)Thu, 20 Dec 2012 17:45:21 -0600I also agree with Centauri in that re-writing the encounter/adventure to include complications makes hiding things more relevant. I would have put coins in different rooms, with their own traps or challenges, if the players preferred moving at theirhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29541447/About_PerceptionInsight_Checks...?post_id=527347555#527347555I also agree with Centauri in that re-writing the encounter/adventure to include complications makes hiding things more relevant. I would have put coins in different rooms, with their own traps or challenges, if the players preferred moving at theirWed, 19 Dec 2012 13:51:08 -0600I tend to agree with Centauri here, unless there is a specific reason for something to be hidden, that it is in effect part of the encounter, there's no point other than to say "After a few minutes searching you find a key hidden in a book."Now, therhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29541447/About_PerceptionInsight_Checks...?post_id=527343259#527343259I tend to agree with Centauri here, unless there is a specific reason for something to be hidden, that it is in effect part of the encounter, there's no point other than to say "After a few minutes searching you find a key hidden in a book."Now, therWed, 19 Dec 2012 11:34:29 -0600This is good advice.Items should only be hidden in the details. That is to say, if something is hidden somewhere, make sure the players are told what it is hidden in up front as part of the description. Do not omit items that have legitimate relevanchttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29541447/About_PerceptionInsight_Checks...?post_id=527343097#527343097This is good advice.Items should only be hidden in the details. That is to say, if something is hidden somewhere, make sure the players are told what it is hidden in up front as part of the description. Do not omit items that have legitimate relevancWed, 19 Dec 2012 11:28:53 -0600If they have all the time in the world, then they find it. Rolling to find things is only interesting if there's an interesting cost or mode of failure. Take the same scenario, but now the maids and butlers are also searching for the coins. They willhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29541447/About_PerceptionInsight_Checks...?post_id=527342805#527342805If they have all the time in the world, then they find it. Rolling to find things is only interesting if there's an interesting cost or mode of failure. Take the same scenario, but now the maids and butlers are also searching for the coins. They willWed, 19 Dec 2012 11:18:04 -0600