New Posts For Thread: Speaking of Staves...http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29512147/Speaking_of_Staves...3.5Am I reading this correctly? Does a staff ALWAYS set the DC by the caster himself? Even if it's lower? Or does it default to the staff's CL minimum like it does for the effects? (that part I'm perfectly clear on).What I mean is, can some first leYes Oma, and I am saying youdon't need to make a minimum Ability Score to use a Staff and that you use your own Ability Scores to set the spell's DC.You aren't casting the Spell (spell Completion) you are Triggering the Spell, and as such only need thttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29512147/Speaking_of_Staves...?post_id=526463689#526463689Yes Oma, and I am saying youdon't need to make a minimum Ability Score to use a Staff and that you use your own Ability Scores to set the spell's DC.You aren't casting the Spell (spell Completion) you are Triggering the Spell, and as such only need tThu, 29 Nov 2012 13:51:58 -0600Another thread that is going crazy.When I look at things it looks like you will use your modifiers to set the DC but you can still use the staff's CL. Don't forget that the two really don't have much to do with each other as you can have a sky highhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29512147/Speaking_of_Staves...?post_id=526463303#526463303Another thread that is going crazy.When I look at things it looks like you will use your modifiers to set the DC but you can still use the staff's CL. Don't forget that the two really don't have much to do with each other as you can have a sky highThu, 29 Nov 2012 13:40:24 -0600???? whats i dont talk about CL and what have to do the CL with the DC of one spell????? the CL dont affect the DC of one spellfor cast magic missil from one staff you need 11 of int but if you only have 12 and the staff have tu orb of force you can'http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29512147/Speaking_of_Staves...?post_id=526462075#526462075???? whats i dont talk about CL and what have to do the CL with the DC of one spell????? the CL dont affect the DC of one spellfor cast magic missil from one staff you need 11 of int but if you only have 12 and the staff have tu orb of force you can'Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:58:28 -0600Oma, the staff has a Minimum Caster Level of the one who made it, not a minimum Ability Score. As it is a Spell Trigger item it doesn't need to meet the minimum CL and Ability score to use. (ie a level 3 Paladin can use a Wand if it is on his spell lhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29512147/Speaking_of_Staves...?post_id=526461733#526461733Oma, the staff has a Minimum Caster Level of the one who made it, not a minimum Ability Score. As it is a Spell Trigger item it doesn't need to meet the minimum CL and Ability score to use. (ie a level 3 Paladin can use a Wand if it is on his spell lThu, 29 Nov 2012 12:45:43 -0600the problem is that a wand have the DC of the one to made it (minimum DC) a staff use the player ability score then under general rules you can't cast a fireball with a lower ability score, you need a minimum of 13 and if the player level 1 take thehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29512147/Speaking_of_Staves...?post_id=526458181#526458181the problem is that a wand have the DC of the one to made it (minimum DC) a staff use the player ability score then under general rules you can't cast a fireball with a lower ability score, you need a minimum of 13 and if the player level 1 take theThu, 29 Nov 2012 10:31:45 -0600