New Posts For Thread: Staffs and UMDhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29511839/Staffs_and_UMDSo i have a question again. Google and search function gave me different answers, and i didnt found anything in the FAQ or Books to it.When i Use a Staff with Use Magic Device, i first have to make a UMD check against a DC 20, like for a wand. But caOma, I did not know that. That being the case, a DM could allow a Bard or Rogue with UMD to use either their Charisma or Wisdom for divine magic items. However The still can't use their Intiligence for Divine, nor their Wisdom for Arcane.I say a DM chttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29511839/Staffs_and_UMD?post_id=526504327#526504327Oma, I did not know that. That being the case, a DM could allow a Bard or Rogue with UMD to use either their Charisma or Wisdom for divine magic items. However The still can't use their Intiligence for Divine, nor their Wisdom for Arcane.I say a DM cFri, 30 Nov 2012 22:52:17 -0600I certainly can see a spell from a staff having a lower save DC then would be normally expected. I'll admit there are several ways one could see using UMD to activate a staff and how ability scores and any CL present act but I've always said that sohttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29511839/Staffs_and_UMD?post_id=526500897#526500897I certainly can see a spell from a staff having a lower save DC then would be normally expected. I'll admit there are several ways one could see using UMD to activate a staff and how ability scores and any CL present act but I've always said that soFri, 30 Nov 2012 18:20:45 -0600I certainly can see a spell from a staff having a lower save DC then would be normally expected. I'll admit there are several ways one could see using UMD to activate a staff and how ability scores and any CL present act but I've always said that sohttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29511839/Staffs_and_UMD?post_id=526500381#526500381I certainly can see a spell from a staff having a lower save DC then would be normally expected. I'll admit there are several ways one could see using UMD to activate a staff and how ability scores and any CL present act but I've always said that soFri, 30 Nov 2012 17:57:27 -0600then you are agree with that a spell form a staff can have a DC lower that the Standard for items instead of dont let the creature do the spell???then if a favored sould make a scroll this scroll can come with a DC as example for a spell level 3 withhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29511839/Staffs_and_UMD?post_id=526499557#526499557then you are agree with that a spell form a staff can have a DC lower that the Standard for items instead of dont let the creature do the spell???then if a favored sould make a scroll this scroll can come with a DC as example for a spell level 3 withFri, 30 Nov 2012 17:27:26 -0600This is really grasping at straws. What creatures without any INT have any skill ranks? I know some of them can make certain checks but they still don't have any ranks in a skill. You REALLY need to show me an example of something with no INT (orhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29511839/Staffs_and_UMD?post_id=526497769#526497769This is really grasping at straws. What creatures without any INT have any skill ranks? I know some of them can make certain checks but they still don't have any ranks in a skill. You REALLY need to show me an example of something with no INT (orFri, 30 Nov 2012 16:34:15 -0600