New Posts For Thread: Can Sub-Optimized Characters Be Effective in 4E?http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29361203/Can_Sub-Optimized_Characters_Be_Effective_in_4EIn the DDN Discussion Forum, I postulated the theory that 4E’s mechanics are based on the assumption that your character has an “18” in its primary stat, and therefore makes character optimization a requirement. I had based this ideThis whole post is full of "right", but the bolded part is especially relevant. You can build suboptimal characters and still be a valued member of the party. Will all classes work this way? No, strikers in particular need /some/ reasonable choicehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29361203/Can_Sub-Optimized_Characters_Be_Effective_in_4E?post_id=525028287#525028287This whole post is full of "right", but the bolded part is especially relevant. You can build suboptimal characters and still be a valued member of the party. Will all classes work this way? No, strikers in particular need /some/ reasonable choiceFri, 12 Oct 2012 15:10:48 -0500At least 50% of the charop boards are thought experiments on how to do something, not actually exercises in building a viable character. No one needs +84 on a jump check by investing like 12 feats, 6 utility powers and an epic destiny.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29361203/Can_Sub-Optimized_Characters_Be_Effective_in_4E?post_id=525020419#525020419At least 50% of the charop boards are thought experiments on how to do something, not actually exercises in building a viable character. No one needs +84 on a jump check by investing like 12 feats, 6 utility powers and an epic destiny.Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:49:55 -0500(The other major mistake in this thread is talking to DLFan. He's a troll.)http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29361203/Can_Sub-Optimized_Characters_Be_Effective_in_4E?post_id=525013669#525013669(The other major mistake in this thread is talking to DLFan. He's a troll.)Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:25:43 -0500This thread's approaching the subject from totally the wrong angle. The question isn't if the character is "optimized", the question is if the character actually does anything useful.A highly suboptimal Warlord can be a useful PC just by standing thehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29361203/Can_Sub-Optimized_Characters_Be_Effective_in_4E?post_id=525011927#525011927This thread's approaching the subject from totally the wrong angle. The question isn't if the character is "optimized", the question is if the character actually does anything useful.A highly suboptimal Warlord can be a useful PC just by standing theFri, 12 Oct 2012 07:14:56 -0500I want to be in a game with this kid!I think I'd play my Rapunzel character again. Seems like a good fit, and she's a fun character to play. Pinocchio and Jiminy Cricket were good for a short campaign but I'm kind of glad that's over.Or maybe I'd finhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29361203/Can_Sub-Optimized_Characters_Be_Effective_in_4E?post_id=524955859#524955859I want to be in a game with this kid!I think I'd play my Rapunzel character again. Seems like a good fit, and she's a fun character to play. Pinocchio and Jiminy Cricket were good for a short campaign but I'm kind of glad that's over.Or maybe I'd finWed, 10 Oct 2012 13:24:37 -0500