New Posts For Thread: Not the usual Ardenthttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29212305/Not_the_usual_ArdentI'm looking to build an Euphoric Ardent for a PbP game. Since I'll be a leader class, I want to focus on helping anyone who joins the group, but no MBA freebies. I looked at the ardent handbook, but it's over two years old, and all of the builds areAt level 1 chain vs scale wont matter much, and overall there are better ways to spend feat slots than +1 AC, especially when you don't have many.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29212305/Not_the_usual_Ardent?post_id=521621099#521621099At level 1 chain vs scale wont matter much, and overall there are better ways to spend feat slots than +1 AC, especially when you don't have many.Fri, 06 Jul 2012 19:43:35 -0500I think I am going to stick with the one-handed flail. I am thinking if I MC, I will do Bard/Skald since that should be a CHA requirement. I like the feat layout, and I may even say forget the shield altogether, so I can squeeze in the Triple Headedhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29212305/Not_the_usual_Ardent?post_id=521610287#521610287I think I am going to stick with the one-handed flail. I am thinking if I MC, I will do Bard/Skald since that should be a CHA requirement. I like the feat layout, and I may even say forget the shield altogether, so I can squeeze in the Triple HeadedFri, 06 Jul 2012 13:37:47 -0500Cleric MC into BCL has always been a little sketchy and it's a reasonable houserule to forbid it, IMO.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29212305/Not_the_usual_Ardent?post_id=521610195#521610195Cleric MC into BCL has always been a little sketchy and it's a reasonable houserule to forbid it, IMO.Fri, 06 Jul 2012 13:33:14 -0500If you want to go with the flail, just take a 20 cha post racial, and use a heavy flail. Both ardents I've played with spammed demo strike for all but 3 or 4 rounds over several mods YMMV. Just not that much you can do about reflex with a build thahttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29212305/Not_the_usual_Ardent?post_id=521606529#521606529If you want to go with the flail, just take a 20 cha post racial, and use a heavy flail. Both ardents I've played with spammed demo strike for all but 3 or 4 rounds over several mods YMMV. Just not that much you can do about reflex with a build thaFri, 06 Jul 2012 11:45:51 -0500That sucks and seems a tad unreasonable by the DM. Versatile Master doen not require a MC, it has a neat feature if you Paragon MC but, you use it to turn your Dilletante power into a full at-will power at 11th.Even if your not going to go into the "http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/29212305/Not_the_usual_Ardent?post_id=521604387#521604387That sucks and seems a tad unreasonable by the DM. Versatile Master doen not require a MC, it has a neat feature if you Paragon MC but, you use it to turn your Dilletante power into a full at-will power at 11th.Even if your not going to go into the "Fri, 06 Jul 2012 10:28:41 -0500