New Posts For Thread: Is new magic missile an attack?http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/25307609/Is_new_magic_missile_an_attackThe new magic missile is an level 1 attack power, it is a ranged attack, and it has a target.  But it doesn't have an attack line or a hit line.  Should it count as an attack for, say, popping greater invisibility?  What about for imposing penaltiAgreed. That's why the language for feats like Inevitable Shot or whatever need to be written with those sorts of facts in mind. It's why Reliable ended up being reworded so much.Wait-what's reliable's current wording?http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/25307609/Is_new_magic_missile_an_attack?post_id=460396553#460396553Agreed. That's why the language for feats like Inevitable Shot or whatever need to be written with those sorts of facts in mind. It's why Reliable ended up being reworded so much.Wait-what's reliable's current wording?Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:13:41 -0500Fair enough. I was just pointout that you miss and you don't hit aren't the same thing when there are multiple attacks involved. :)http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/25307609/Is_new_magic_missile_an_attack?post_id=460396345#460396345Fair enough. I was just pointout that you miss and you don't hit aren't the same thing when there are multiple attacks involved. :)Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:12:14 -0500It should probably be either "You miss all targets" or "you miss with an attack." Anything that isn't expected to work with a magic missile type attack really shouldn't have the type of wording that it does, just because, there's no real reason why yhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/25307609/Is_new_magic_missile_an_attack?post_id=460396065#460396065It should probably be either "You miss all targets" or "you miss with an attack." Anything that isn't expected to work with a magic missile type attack really shouldn't have the type of wording that it does, just because, there's no real reason why yWed, 04 Aug 2010 16:10:44 -0500It isn't Purple Prose.  There is a big difference for Close and Area attacks.  For that matter, if it refers to the attack power as opposed to an attack, there is a big difference for Ranged and Melee attacks that have multiple attacks.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/25307609/Is_new_magic_missile_an_attack?post_id=460395265#460395265It isn't Purple Prose.  There is a big difference for Close and Area attacks.  For that matter, if it refers to the attack power as opposed to an attack, there is a big difference for Ranged and Melee attacks that have multiple attacks.Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:06:12 -0500Honestly, the "Greater Invisibility ends if magic missile is an attack" seems like the most relevant factor to me. Otherwise, a wand wizard can just hide 100% of the time.Edit: Besides which, the biggest argument against magic missile as an attack ishttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/25307609/Is_new_magic_missile_an_attack?post_id=460386745#460386745Honestly, the "Greater Invisibility ends if magic missile is an attack" seems like the most relevant factor to me. Otherwise, a wand wizard can just hide 100% of the time.Edit: Besides which, the biggest argument against magic missile as an attack isWed, 04 Aug 2010 15:16:31 -0500