New Posts For Thread: What constitutes a "grind"?http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75854/22251997/What_constitutes_a_grindI was wondering how people classify a combat as a "grind."  Many people have said that they dislike combat X or Y in a mod because it's a "grind," but I'm not sure we all define that in the same way.I have even seen DMs call a fight half-way througA Grind is when the PCs are facing an encounter with enemies that have high defenses requiring a 15 or better die roll, lots of HP, daze at-will or constantly recharge that dazing power, insubstantial, weakening, can heal or second-wind in some formhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75854/22251997/What_constitutes_a_grind?post_id=387488061#387488061A Grind is when the PCs are facing an encounter with enemies that have high defenses requiring a 15 or better die roll, lots of HP, daze at-will or constantly recharge that dazing power, insubstantial, weakening, can heal or second-wind in some formSat, 23 Jan 2010 15:13:23 -0600Nope -- cutting that skill challenge short due to smart players is explicitly addressed in the adventure. I was quite pleased by that.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75854/22251997/What_constitutes_a_grind?post_id=387449917#387449917Nope -- cutting that skill challenge short due to smart players is explicitly addressed in the adventure. I was quite pleased by that.Sat, 23 Jan 2010 07:28:26 -0600I start thinking "grind" or "tedious" when the outcome is clear either way, but I rarely find these fights to be a problem as a DM or a Player. Once the outcome is clear, it is time to take risks to accelerate the outcome or change it. It is also a ghttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75854/22251997/What_constitutes_a_grind?post_id=387447469#387447469I start thinking "grind" or "tedious" when the outcome is clear either way, but I rarely find these fights to be a problem as a DM or a Player. Once the outcome is clear, it is time to take risks to accelerate the outcome or change it. It is also a gSat, 23 Jan 2010 06:00:57 -0600Even short skill challenges usually feel like a grind to me--they are a fundamentally flawed mechanic. But skill encounters (including that rare, mythical beast, the well constructed skill challenge, if one ever mysteriously manages to claw its way fhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75854/22251997/What_constitutes_a_grind?post_id=387427745#387427745Even short skill challenges usually feel like a grind to me--they are a fundamentally flawed mechanic. But skill encounters (including that rare, mythical beast, the well constructed skill challenge, if one ever mysteriously manages to claw its way fFri, 22 Jan 2010 22:02:21 -0600It really varies by table. Some skill challenges are set up so that only a couple of skills make sense in the context. This can lead to the Diplomacy grind (probably the most typical skill that gets used repeatedly in social skill challenges), whichhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75854/22251997/What_constitutes_a_grind?post_id=387425261#387425261It really varies by table. Some skill challenges are set up so that only a couple of skills make sense in the context. This can lead to the Diplomacy grind (probably the most typical skill that gets used repeatedly in social skill challenges), whichFri, 22 Jan 2010 21:35:34 -0600